[susiemk]

Yeah my V2 5 injector DCCD STi RA swaps had A/C too ? ABS as I did not have knuckles for the V2 (RS brakes) but I assumed no ABS as the later V3 & V4 R/RA knuckles I had were non-ABS.

I'll Look for the Forester ABS conversion.

^The ABS Tone Rings may have changed @ some point as I remember reading about folks having ABS problems with mismatched new rear / old front knuckles.

 

[JWalker]

Holy friggin crap, I will edit my post. So apparently you don't need 6mt axles in the front, and you can run the same frickin 5mt axles. 1. So if he gets jdm 5x100 r180 rear knuckles and hubs he will be able to keep his usdm rs front knuckles and hubs, correct? 2. And if he uses usdm r180 rear hubs and kuckles he will have to convert the fronts to 5x114 knuckles and hubs then, correct?

3. Go ahead and jump on the bandwagon with jwalker. So much nasioc in this thread. Sucks some people can't just correct someone rather than throw a fit online.

1. That question was posed by the OP IIRC to which many have answered already. Yes.

2. No. Did you already forget that 04 STI had 5x100 bolt pattern??? Because you mentioned it in an earlier post here. And why would he need STI hubs?He's got a 5-speed. It bolts right up. Plus STI front hubs means he'll end up needing GD front STI suspension or machining them to fit GC suspension!

3. What bandwagon? Its just me and 2 others confirming that you are confused and thus shouldn't be posting here and now you pull the It's-So-Nasioc-In-Here Card? :lol:

 

[2slo4u]

1. That question was posed by the OP IIRC to which many have answered already. Yes.

2. No. Did you already forget that 04 STI had 5x100 bolt pattern??? Because you mentioned it in an earlier post here. And why would he need STI hubs?He's got a 5-speed. It bolts right up. Plus STI front hubs means he'll end up needing GD front STI suspension or machining them to fit GC suspension!

3. What bandwagon? Its just me and 2 others confirming that you are confused and thus shouldn't be posting here and now you pull the It's-So-Nasioc-In-Here Card? :lol:

Coming in to echo things already said once again? Is there something you're trying to prove? Something I did to you in a past life? :lol: Yes, this is a very nasioc type atmosphere. Its a shame we can't clean it up by deleting our posts but some of us seem to like the way its going.

I knew the sti 04 hubs were 5x100 but wasn't aware of the front axle stubs being the same for 5 and 6spds. If that is the case then will the 99RS front knuckle work fine with brembo calipers for example, and 04sti front knuckle work fine with 99rs calipers? I'm trying to sort it all but instead of politely helping, some people seem to prefer being interwebz smartasses. The funny thing is the OP came in and asked the question, so if it had already been answered why did he have to ask? Maybe you should rub his nose in it as well.

I'm also certain that I need the front hubs to fit the axles too, correct?

 

[RB2B]

Dude, I don't pretend to know everything about these cars. But I do know abouit things that I have personally experianced. There is a lot of people out there who don't understand what works and how. Then they get on the internet and start posting things that 1) don't make sense mechanically or logically and 2) they have little or no experiance in the matter they are commenting on.

To answer your question about the front hubs:

GDB front axles/hubs are different. They have an ABS sensor in a different location then GC8 ABS cars. The GDB front axle is much thicker and stronger than a GC8 axle. (Speaking of JDM V7+ ABS STi's) I don't know about the USDM '04 STi, never had my hands on one. The Brembo brakes from (at least) 2004 GDB's will work on ANY GC8 front hub.

If you did a 6MT swap don't use GDB front axles, use the GC8 axles. The sub shaft on the tranny has the same spline count/diameter/location as a 5MT.

Nothing personal, its just the internet. Know your sh*t before answering question. People base their purchases on information like this.

 

[2slo4u]

I'll get it eventually and hands on experience does get you there quicker, I just don't appreciate the snide comments and e attitude. I don't do that to others here and don't appreciate it. If you have a problem with something I post feel free to pm me and I'll correct it or maybe just let me know its incorrect. I can tell you I'm not the only one in this thread who posts "misinformation".

 

[John2.5RS]

Don't post information if it's wrong. Mis-information can be worse then no info. All that does is add to your post count and clutters a thread.
If the information is correct, more than one person will say the same thing. No need to feel like you know more than someone or they are saying the same thing and copying you.

 

[Smoke]

The funny thing is the OP came in and asked the question, so if it had already been answered why did he have to ask? Maybe you should rub his nose in it as well.

Hey don't put this on me.
The front differential is open on the 98 Type-R STi and I heard speculation that it's different, so that's why I asked.

 

[2slo4u]

Dude, I don't pretend to know everything about these cars. But I do know abouit things that I have personally experianced.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=33884417#post33884417
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2150062
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=33774950#post33774950
Yeah, "we here in jdm land try to dispell myth from fact"
We all make errors, but not everyone goes overboard with providing correct information.

No need to feel like you know more than someone or they are saying the same thing and copying you.

There you go, assuming you know what I feel. Where do you get the idea I "know more than someone" or think they are copying me? I was stating someone was echoing what another had already posted which was my point. Like when you are in a dicussion with two other people and second person just says "Yeah, what he said" to everthing the other says. :lol: Apparently you are also upping your post count and cluttering this thread, you could have posted this via pm.

Hey don't put this on me.
The front differential is open on the 98 Type-R STi and I heard speculation that it's different, so that's why I asked.

I'm not accusing you for anything, sorry if you took it that way. One of the guys stated it had already been answered, but apparently it had not been clarified enough... so you asked the question. That was my point. I also hear speculation from senior members on these things sometimes and have to ask around.

 

[RB2B]

Haha, anyway...I was wrong about that. Last time I checked they pointed that out already. No one's perfect, like you or me. I got my ass handed to me. Like you did. That's what I get for trusting local knowledge and Wikipedia.

But if you think my mistake somehow makes all my previous statements about "front R180 hubs" void...sure.

Go digging for more dirt on anyone who point out your wrongs and you'll never get anywhere.

 

[2slo4u]

Haha, anyway...I was wrong about that. Last time I checked they pointed that out already. No one's perfect, like you or me. I got my ass handed to me. Like you did. That's what I get for trusting local knowledge and Wikipedia.

But if you think my mistake somehow makes all my previous statements about "front R180 hubs" void...sure.

Go digging for more dirt on anyone who point out your wrongs and you'll never get anywhere.

Apparently your interpretation of what I think is very wrong. Nowhere did I say something you posted about this r180 issue was incorrect. I appreciate the knowledge people share, just not the attitude. Sometimes you have to play dirty when someone won't step off their high horse to remind them they are still learning as well. I would be willing to allow a mod to delete my posts if the rest of the messy replies related to my incorrect posts were also deleted.

 

[supermoose]

I'm also certain that I need the front hubs to fit the axles too, correct?

I used all 4 2004 jdm version 8 5-100 hubs on my GC8 with gc8 axels on my 1995 dccd RA trans.

reference;


We used oem stubs on a 04 jdm forrester 5mt turbo trans to convert female trans to male trans to mate to stock 2002 wrx front axels (same as gc8). 5mt-5mt

subaru had this stub thing in the catalog around 2004, a good parts counter guy would be able to find it.


5 speed trans from any GC8 impreza 1992-2001 is all pnp with 2.5 RS 5mt front axels (or any other 5mt front axels for that matter)

from my experience 5mt axels are longer than 4eat in the front. I fit an auto axel in my 5 speed car once and it made funny noises driving around, had to extend the CV a bit to get the inner punch pin in.

Yeah my V2 5 injector DCCD STi RA swaps had A/C too ? ABS as I did not have knuckles for the V2 (RS brakes) but I assumed no ABS as the later V3 & V4 R/RA knuckles I had were non-ABS.

I'll Look for the Forester ABS conversion.

^The ABS Tone Rings may have changed @ some point as I remember reading about folks having ABS problems with mismatched new rear / old front knuckles.

AC was standard equip on V2 sti-RA v-limited (really a street car with lower final drive), very popular dealer installed option on all cars without AC from subaru, all owners in japan really- even if buying competition models may want AC as Japan is......HUMID!!!!!

Think I have seen AC installed on early WRX-RA with 5 injector (non sti, with the true rally box). perhaps somebody does not like to sweat while going sideways on dirt>>

 

[Monster]

i want to confirm this, on 04 rear hubs the abs tone rings are on the hubs, so therefore you would be able to use any rear r180 axle with the 06 r180 rear diff?

 

[Mad Ra88it]

i want to confirm this, on 04 rear hubs the abs tone rings are on the hubs, so therefore you would be able to use any rear r180 axle with the 06 r180 rear diff?

Yes sir. As long as your tone rings match your hubs, you're fine.

6mt front stubs are a different size than the 5mt front stubs.

I've tried to fit the 5mt front stubs into a 6mt trans, it doesn't work. I've got the part numbers for exactly what you need for the fronts when doing a 6mt swap.

Otherwise, 5mt stock car... 5mt new trans... if you've got stubs in your 5mt, you can pull them out and put them into the JDM trans.

 

[supermoose]

Yes sir. As long as your tone rings match your hubs, you're fine.

6mt front stubs are a different size than the 5mt front stubs.

I've tried to fit the 5mt front stubs into a 6mt trans, it doesn't work. I've got the part numbers for exactly what you need for the fronts when doing a 6mt swap.

Otherwise, 5mt stock car... 5mt new trans... if you've got stubs in your 5mt, you can pull them out and put them into the JDM trans.

Please post photos of stubs and pn's and dimensions so it can be clarified for all - this is a grey matter zone.

Do you know if the 6mt stubs are specific to open or LSD front diff?

Rear axels seem to be different between diffs

 

[Monster]

And which tone rings match which yr axles?

 

[2slo4u]

Ugh... just when I thought things were cleared up :drunk:

i want to confirm this, on 04 rear hubs the abs tone rings are on the hubs, so therefore you would be able to use any rear r180 axle with the 06 r180 rear diff?

Yes sir. As long as your tone rings match your hubs, you're fine.

6mt front stubs are a different size than the 5mt front stubs.

I've tried to fit the 5mt front stubs into a 6mt trans, it doesn't work. I've got the part numbers for exactly what you need for the fronts when doing a 6mt swap.

Otherwise, 5mt stock car... 5mt new trans... if you've got stubs in your 5mt, you can pull them out and put them into the JDM trans.

Please post photos of stubs and pn's and dimensions so it can be clarified for all - this is a grey matter zone.

Do you know if the 6mt stubs are specific to open or LSD front diff?

Rear axels seem to be different between diffs

 

[supermoose]

Ugh... just when I thought things were cleared up :drunk:

hahahah yeah. more strange morphing of product line means more weird swapping puzzles!!! got to stay on top of the game right!!!

so far for 6mt front axels there is:

male and female;

open front diff/ lsd front diff

rear r180 is all LSD; its axels should be also.
rear R160 axels have different inner stubs for different diffs (open, vlsd, mechanical/clutch sti/cusco) 3 different styles iirc (I may be wrong, but at least 2 kinds)

 

[ThatGuy]

Just remove the ABS bulb from your cluster, and pull your ABS fuse. Problem solved.

 

[Monster]

Can't make it too easy for everyone

 

[fantasticfour]

only STi-RA/typeR has r180 from version 3-6. normal sti and wrx-ra gets same r160 as everyone else.....

......install rear R160 4.44 and axels to pair with your transmission; this would be plug and play into the usa GC8 and be just like factory japan sti version 3/4/5/6.

Sorry to revive this from the dead but I have a Version 3 GF front clip, I think the final drive is 4.444, but it also came with a rear differential and suspension. I've recently discovered that the rear diff/knuckles/axles are R180.

Was this possible from the factory or was it a mismatch from the ebay seller? Everything's been swapped into the car and it drives fine. Would a mismatched front and rear differential final drive be readily noticeable when driving?