Let's hope Darwinism weeds these guys out and the cars are put out of their misery.

 

you dont have a digital camera or pic phone your living in the stone age.

 

that has to be the most horrific shit i have ever heard. please get a camera soon and take some pics

 

The sad fact is, Subaru couldn't continue to cater only to the strictest of Enthusiasts.. I doubt Honda does either. Hence the mental giants we commonly read about with their Wal-mart modifications. It's the price you pay fortunate, or unfortunate as that may turn out to be.

Frankly, I'd rather the stoopids, such as the above examples, exist if it means that us enthusiasts have a continued base for our hobby. If no one bought these cars, Subaru would abandon the market, and us with it.

Why are hondas so prevalent and numerous and enjoy a very large active enthusiast community? Because for ever 1 or 2 "enthusiasts" there are 10 to 15 'stoopids' also buying the product.

Live and let live.. their bad taste doesn't effect my enthusiast hobby, they don't hinder me in any way, and I don't feel associated to those types of people because we own the same make and model of car. The people in the know, know whats up.

 

This is one of the few markets that breaks the rules of supply and demand. The more demand, the more pieces made, more pieces made means productions costs can be distributed farther. all of this means lower prices for us.

Let the dumbasses do what they want. Although i would rather see more real enthusiasts but you cant always get what you want.

Chris

 

You can't expect an enthusiast following for cheap cars that are intended to get people from point A to point B. If you want exclusive try a rarer car...

 

You can't expect an enthusiast following for cheap cars that are intended to get people from point A to point B.

Well, I'd not go so far as to say that.. The 'original' Auto enthusiasts did exactly that.. It was the staple of the American muscle car era as well, cheap cars with little to no power modified to be street machines. Hondas kinda fall into that category as well these days, as do in a small part our Subarus. (we just have better factory support than say Honda for the modding community, IMHO anyways. They are relatively cheap cars, that aren't much out of the box, that can be turned into relative beasts with a few timely mods.

Now, having said that, Subarus also fall into the second category you mention, and thats exclusivity. This isn't so much by virtue of them being such vaunted sports cars, like say a Ferrari or Lotus, but more like, They are rarer than most production vehicles, and come from a somewhat lesser publicized form of motorsport (not to detract from it's popularity, but WRC say isn't as popular in EU or USA as say even F1 is by comparison.)

So in effect, we get both subsets of 'enthusiast', those looking for exclusivity from the cars rarity, and performance enthusiasts who take the core and build a monster from relatively simple beginnings.

There is still exclusivity based on the sheer rarity of the vehicles. We won't ever be as big as Honda in this regard, and I think many are probably more pleased by this than upset by it. There are certainly more 'turn my DD Subaru into a rally ready monster' enthusiasts than the latter.

Either way, people that aren't enthusiasts that rice out their subys don't reflect poorly on the rest of the community.. these cars, say way more than any poor mod or ricer ever could anyways.

 

hot rod tires on the rear? were they taller than the front tires? if so, i feel sorry for that drivetrain.

 

civic badges on a subaru...
bought an intercooler for looks...

ya that's pretty retarded

 

Drakuun, have you ever been to Northern California/Nevada? There are more Subarus on the road than SUVs.

I understand what your view on the "exclusivity" of Subarus but the fact of the matter is 90% of Subarus line is tailored to the average person looking for average transportation. Mind you, I'm talking about the US market here. The only "exclusive" car Subaru makes is the STi. There is absolutely no reason for a commuter to buy it, and they don't. It was built for on and off-road performance and that's what the majority of STi owners use them for.

The WRX is a mixed market because it's more affordable and its daily driver qualities haven't been sacrificed for performance like the STi.

Then you get to the lower model Imprezas. They're reliable cars that gets good gas mileage and are safe. How can you expect any sort of exclusivity when this car is built around the top three things 98% of the US' driving population wants/needs?

 

There is a retarded amount of Subarus in norcal. It's retarded.

cheers

poorman

 

Quoted for the retarded amount of usage of the word retarded.
I agree though, esp up in the Sierras.

 

I'm talking good old factual numbers here. Subaru sells less than 300,000 a year world wide... companies like the Big 3, Honda and Toyota can sell 300,000 units A MONTH of a single model. (The Taurus to date stands as the 'best selling car in a single month' with about 450,000 units about 5 or 6 years ago. IIRC) I owned a '98 Ford Tarus SHO that was one of 150,000 sold that year. Subaru's in the North American market are RARE no matter how you slice it.

My comments on the enthusiast market stand however.. Many of the people on this site represent it to it's fullest. They took Brightons, L's and RS' and turned them into STi's. That was the very rule of the "muscle car" era back in the day. Consider it along the lines of when the Big 3 caught on that people were swapping big blocks into their econo cars and created the more enthusiast version of the same cars in later years.

It was simply an option.. buy the factory enthusiast model, or, buy the econo and swap it.

 

ttiwwop

 

Get a pic i want to see and cry. lol, And im going to stay uninvolved in the convo's above^^^. i have only seen one cheaply done up Subaru that literally had a 4-5 foot wing on the back of it . Just think of an STI spolier, mount two more on top, and thats what it looked like.

 

I will attest to the fact that norcal is suby filled. 5 RS's spotted within a 1.5 mile radius of my house. I personally know 2 live within a few blocks of me, not very friendly folks. A white modded sti lives down the block and never takes notice of my gc8 or bugeye. I guess californians are THAT desensitised to subys. It really has taken over as the staple car to be bought around here. They're everywhere, which is actually a fact I enjoy.

 

there's an impreza L running around here with 14" daytons that stick out about 2" from the fenders.

 

Sadly I've also seen a few of these Subaru owners where I live. I usually ignore them. However, I'll wave/honk to a clean subie.

 

I have yet to see a rice out subaru locally and i hope i never do.

 

this thread is worthless without pics. i wanna see these monstrocities

 

so how many cherry pieces of history did you mutilate?

 

none...why do you ask?

 

Saw a horrid green GC sedan with a custom hunter green paint job, body kit, aluminum wing and Altezzas roll by while I was pulling out of my local dealership yesterday. It looked like the work had been done professionally, but I still hated it.

 

Come to FL...I hardly see 1st gen Impreza's here. When I do its usually an OBS with a lesbian in it or a faded 1993 ish model with the original owners driving it to the local bingo. I love it.

 

I am just waiting to see a GTR badge on a Suby. I have already heard of one on a Mustang.

 

There's this old skool green L w/ GDA C-West wing and cannon muffler. Drives and revs crazy. He's lucky I haven't met him on the road...... muahahaaha

WRX/22T EVO3-16G-8cm swapped would WHOOP him SO SUPER BAD!!! lolz
but then again I don't want to do that because then he'd be looking for me and the nmaybe stealz my parts..... *sigh* kids...... it's scary!!! pretty soon it'll be Subarus getting stolen for parts!!

 

I don't mind seeing riced-out Civics. They are good for a laugh, and there are TONS of Civics. But when someone rices out a relatively rare '98 - '01 RS, that's disturbing. I mean, there are only 14k or so of these cars around......

 

probably less than that, though. think of how many were made into track cars, put in the hands of overzealous and young drivers, or were victimized by idiots in SUVs.....quite a few have been totaled.

 

....and debadged, too :crazy:

Dan D

 

:shrug: seems like we hear about at least one a week being in a serious accident or totaled on here. extrapolate that over the country over the years and the numbers drop quite a bit.