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Loyal to ej20t

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i have a 92 loyal, auto transmission, how hard would it be to drop an ej20t into it, and swap out the tranny for a manual one...and do you think it would be worth it?
 
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mxpunk said:
well i know one thing, it sure aint worth it!
what on earth do you know? have you done it?!

Loyale's are one of the lightest subarus to ever hit the market (rivaled only by EA81 Hatches and Brats, and early imp L coupes with no options.), a 4WD AT loyale with driver and full tank of gas will tip the scales at a bit over 2600.....

and, have a shorter front overhang.

and more room in the engine bay. How are you going to get something like this in a new gen engine bay?
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and, with the gas tank all the way in the back, it's got a little better weight distribution than the newer gen cars.

huh....sounds like a better candidate than any other subaru. PLUS, they're dirt cheap.

the body is not as stiff as other subarus, but weld up some beefy fender braces, and a strut tower brace that bolts to the firewall....

and the rear suspension is definitely inferior. but that can all be overcome.



anyway, yes, it's possible. wiring is pretty complex, as the EA82 (stock Loyale motor) has one injector, and a distributer. vs any EJ motors electronic ignition and multi-point FI. but mechanically speaking, it's extremely straightforward.

for starters, you'll want to jump on over to www.ultimatesubaru.org there are tons of older subaru owners there, and you'll find all sorts of info about poly bushings, rear disc brakes, upgraded sway bars etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. there.

then, download the full EA2EJ swap manual (compiled by yours truly...), and read it over. it's catered more towards using a N/A EJ22e, but all of the information is applicable.
http://www.d.umn.edu/~alex0219/Subaru/EA2EJ.pdf

keep in mind, you'll want to find the engine crossmember from a turbo EA82 GL, this will drastically simplify the exhaust routing up to the turbo. it's very possible to route it back around the crossmember and axle up to the turbo in stock location, but it's not the easy way. and if you've got the motor out anyway....

and last, but certainly not least, look up Suberdave on UltimateSubaru. He's got an EJ20G-swapped GL-10 wagon that's extremely hot, running Tein Flex coilovers with EDFC and 17" wheels. His Website


and my car. '92 Loyale, started life with a 3-speed auto, FWD, and 1.8l EA82 motor. now it's running an EJ22e from a '92 legacy, a dual-range Full-time 4WD RX tranny with matching mechanical rear LSD, rear disc brakes using Nissan 200SX rear calipers (rear handbrake), crappy ebay adjustable coilover springs for an impreza, and much more

car:
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Engine bay:
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Photoshop of what I want it to look like when I'm "done". estimated timeline....3-4 years:
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been driving it every day (delivering pizza now) for almost a year....2nd gear puts an ear-to-ear grin on my face every single time.




and guys....if you don't have a clue, don't post. putting an EJ drivetrain in a justy would be stupid difficult (extremely fun when completed, however), but not a loyale.
 
#6 ·
Trollbox said:
I cant say i like the look of the car but it but it sounds like it could be a pretty fun project and deffanitly a one of a kind (MAYBE).
it's definitely not a look for everyone...that's true.

it's pretty much one-of-a-kind as it is. one of a handful with this same basic setup...and once I get the 5-lug swap, suspension, and engine work done, it definitely will be the only one like it.




forgot to mention the total sleeper effect. cops always just look right past me, even if I was just doing something that would warrant a 911 call :run:

and, the fact that a hydro clutch setup would be extremely difficult to install. I've never heard of one being used, and I know that they were never offered for EA cars in any market....so some fabbing would be required.
 
#9 ·
olsen726 said:
dam, your care sure has come a long way, thanks for the support, i think i might go for it, thats kinda why i wanted to do it, for the sleeper effect... but yeah, after seeing your car, that makes me want to do it that much more
I just wished you lived closer. even with what little power the EJ22e gives, and my incredibly crappy suspension setup (for now...). I guarantee 10 minutes behind the wheel of mine and you'd be in the garage all night, every night, until yours is done!!


Then you add 155/80r13 studless snow tires, and head waaaaayyyyy up north (less than an hour from canada), plow a course on the lake, and you get:
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(Ignore the headlight :( )

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if you do it, you will be extremely hard-pressed to find a car that's as much fun to drive.
 
#11 ·
Nice, so are you using an adapter plate to mate the ej to the ea series tranny for the bellhousing?
I have been a subaru nut from day 1, before I even heard of a wrx. My first car was a 78 gl wagon, for me subaru is not about looks, its about practicality. That 78 would fit on 4 wheeler trails in montana.(pretty funny running across a quad 6 miles back on a 'wheeler' trail. The looks on there faces were priceless.) Sure would have loved having the 2.2l from my 93 legacy in there. Maybe someday I will have to revisit my past.