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I am thinking (well more like when I take a ride in rudy’s car I will order that day) about getting Cobb’s cams for my MY99 and I plan on getting heads around next summer should I go with the spicy? I plan to stay NA but if I do decide to go turbo or SC it shouldn’t be too much of a problem to get the turbo cams to swap out. If your going to do it you might as well do it right IMO. But would I have to bump the redline up to use the power of the cams?
 

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actually the spicy cams WILL NOT WORK if you plan to go turboed in the future...they have valve overlap which will cause exahust gas reversion into the combustion chamber and therefore more likely cause detonation. Also if you do choose to go witht he spicy cams you will need a TEC-II or HalTech so that you can bump up your rev limiter since they significantly move the powerband up. If you plan to go Turbo then get the street cams.
 

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I knew the cams wouldn't work with a turbo but if I do decide to go turbo I am going to go balls out and get the cams too so switching them would not be a problem. And I was hoping that by the time I can afford the heads the unichip for a GC8 will be out or I can afford a TEC-II (maybe one will come up in the classifieds of price drop for TEC-II when TEC-III comes out) or Haltech. Since the spicy cams peak at redline can't you still run them just shifting at redline. Are there any power differences other that RPM range?
 

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i'm sure you'll see more HP but it's gonna idle rougher and it's won't make as smooth low end power. But i am sure you'll make MORE HP.

jeremy
 

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Hndatch627 said:
i'm sure you'll see more HP but it's gonna idle rougher and it's won't make as smooth low end power. But i am sure you'll make MORE HP.

jeremy
MORE HP isnt that what where all after :D ? I am more worried about usable power. I love the torque i have now and since my girlfriend has a 00' celica GT-S i can't be slacking of else my GIRLFRIENDS car will be able to take me. That would not be too fun. Am i going to have to row though the gears like crazy to keep it in a narrow powerband? or is the curve simialr to the one posted on Cobb's site?
 

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Another consideration is that the Cobb mild cams were designed to be within the range that the ECU expects to see thus no CE light issues. The spicy cams have quite a few CE reports (mostly showing up when at idle).
 

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I have the spicy cams, and love them. Yes, it idles a little rougher, no worse than my stock Toyota 4x4. The power is very good, all the way to the kill-joy rev limiter. The loss of bottom end is noticable, but not extreme. I can still pull steep hills at 55-60 in 5th with the cruise on and lose no more than 3 mph. Feels like a 2.2 up to about 3k. the power is very smooth, even lugging the engine, no hiccups or misfiring. Only got a CE light once, because I didn't get the #4 plug wire pushed all the way on the plug when I first put it together. A Haltec would be a nice addition though, to get the rev limiter a little higher.
 

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The "kick-in" so to speak, is about the same as stock around 4300, but it just more power, and it doesn't taper off above 5500 like the stock cams. My "butt-dyno" tells me that it feels like a 2.2 below 2500-3000. From 3k to about 4 it starts to pick up power, and seems to supass the stock cams by 4k, then really takes off. Obviously, the Spicy cams will work best with other breathing mods. ie intake,exhaust, headers...
 

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Well so far I have the borla headers, random tech. Cat., stromsung mid-pipe and dual-tip exhaust. The only issue is an intake since I have a MY99 I am currently running a DIY retaining the stock airbox with some 3” tubing going to a ractive cone filter that is lined up with the hole in the fender. I am just waiting for something to come out so I can have a real intake :mad:
 

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Well, we gotta take a ride !! The mild cams come on at 3500 and just go from there.Very little low end loss,still pulls very well.My rpms may be abit diff because of my slush box gearing.Idle is normal,very drivable too.Im sure the spicy cams are cool too,but i didnt wanna lose any low end if i could help it.
 

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Yes we do I may be leaving new years day for work and will not be back for approximately 1.5 weeks but I will be sure to give you a shout when I get home. I really don’t want any low-end loss either but I do however want the most I can get while saving up for a nice turbo kit, NA heads or a supercharger. The bug has bitten me big time since this is my first car (3 jeep wranglers previously) build up.
 
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