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ummm if one were to drag race with a S2000 in a RS-T (i have the EJ22) what would happen... i'm talking specifics here...

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gear comparisons... etc..

is the torque in the EJ22 way more than the honda?
i remember the S2000 having a 14.2 sec quarter mile... and its pretty light... high end should kill us right?
 

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From a stop to just over legal speeds - RS-T

From a roll to crazy fAst-n-FuRiouS like speed - S2000

1/4 mile should be close, assuming S2000 is on street tires.

Just my opinions.
 

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the S2000 weights almost exactly what our cars do, 2906 lbs curb weight IIRC but it takes an AWESOME driver to launch the S2000 properly and you can only do it once cause the next time the tires are hot is just spins the clutch(yes i have done it). It will really come down to driver...i have seen stock S2000's go 13.8 but most go 14.2-14.5 cause they are tricky to launch.
 

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mmmm strange... i lost a half car length in first and half of second then in third the RS-t won by 1.5 car lengths... then no road to go into 4th.... hahaha then (this is funny) i slammed on the brakes to talk to him and then he slammed on the brakes i went slower and slower and he refused to catch up and high beamed me.... then we saw 3 cops shooting a radar at both of us going 40 in a 60 zone hahahahah he was carrying christmas presents i was carrying my girlfriend...
 

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HAHAHA!

Nice Job HOK
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Sounds like you gave that S2000 a little run for its money. I cannot stop thinking about whether or not I will be able to beat the S200 when my Legacy setup goes on (I hope so!). The car has got a great platform, but like all other Hondas and Acura's, they lack an incredible amount of torque, which is what throws you back in your seat. I would have loved to that race!



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Sweet nice victory HOK. The S2000 beat you off the line!? That thing has $hit for torque. Damn you must be running a pretty large turbo to have a S2000 jump the line on you. What kit do you have?

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hey!

umm i have the T-28 turbo and set at 14psi... it should be pretty good for lag... but i have a EJ22t... not the EJ25... so i lose some torque...

but my top end kicks butt.... it pulls very hard... but low is not good... i don't know what it is...
 

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That S2000 you raced on the freeway must have been REALLY high in the RPM range for it to be keeping up with a toque monster EJ25 @ 7 psi! That kind of suprises me, but oh well.

HOK- I considered the EJ22-T swap myself, but decided not to just because of the fact that you do lose so much down low. To me its a big turnoff, because the low down torque you get with the EJ25-T is what gives you the edge against high revving monsters like the S2000.


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Well its not only the .3 liters of displacement... its also the high compression of the EJ25... the EJ22T has lower compression pistons... so i noticed it a lot more... i would give up the EJ25 for the high end i have any day... but if you get pistons and rods and build up the EJ25... i would take that.. too.. hehe

"high ...end"
 

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Graham said:
That S2000 you raced on the freeway must have been REALLY high in the RPM range for it to be keeping up with a toque monster EJ25 @ 7 psi! That kind of suprises me, but oh well.

HOK- I considered the EJ22-T swap myself, but decided not to just because of the fact that you do lose so much down low. To me its a big turnoff, because the low down torque you get with the EJ25-T is what gives you the edge against high revving monsters like the S2000.


Graham

have you ever driven one of them S2000's they are the most PERFECTLY geared car on the rd...FYI 75 is about the top of second gear...82 is where you bounce the limiter :biggest: but i could be wrong ;)

nothing screams like a 240 HP NA 4 cylinder honda @ 9200 RPM!!!!
 

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i dont know about that the s2000 is fast top end but what about low? The powerband on that thing starts at what 7k rpm. My friend has one of those and launching from a dead stop 1st gear takes like 1 minute ot hit redline. On the freeway sure a high rever has the advantage but on the course and streets the low end torque always comes on top. Also about that max speed on each gear sure its fast but how long does it take to get there? Its like staring off on 3rd gear. In my opinoin i dont give a crap about hp, torque is what gets you moving.

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I am not certain why people talk about low end torque and racing together. When I race, my tach never drops below 4000 or so, and I always launch above that. I actually found my best launches were at 5200. If I were driving an S2000, I would probably launch at well over 7k, and I guarantee the rpms would never drop below that.

Now if you are in an RS-T or Supercharged RS, you probably don't want to launch at 5200 because things will break.

I am working on someone I know with an S2000 to let me drop a supercharger into it too. hehehehe.
 

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Templar- I'm sure its fun as hell driving like that, but I sure don't have the profits to go out and buy new parts (tranny, engine!).


Jeremy, if the S2000 is redlining @ around 80 in second, and they were going no more than 95 mph, then what RPM was the car at since the guy would have to shift to third? My point being that yes, its fast when its in its RPM rpm range, but what happens when there's no torque to get the car moving below a certain RPM? To answer your question, no I have never driven an S2000, though though I am sure it is a nice car, but it still lacks an incredible amount of torque. I really think its a turn-off that the S2000 is SOO lacking in torque; maybe I should just drive one to see how it is.


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Graham, I only drive like that for racing, and not for daily stuff. If you upgrade engine and tranny mounts, it actually isn't that hard on the car. At least not while you are still NA. I also didn't mention that I don't dump the clutch at 5200, I slip it a very small amount and the car gets a little bit of wheel chirp and then is gone with no bogging.

I will say that I still prefer my RS, but if you have never driven an S2000 go to a dealer and pretend to have interest and test drive one. It is as close to driving a formula one car as most of ust will get. When you shift at redline, you do not drop out of the powerband. Hell you can shift around 7 or 800 rpms below redline and still not fall out of the powerband. Now granted, driving around town it probably feels like crap due to the complete lack of anything at all below cam switch.
 

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I figured you probably didn't drive like that ALL the time. :)

You really think engine and tranny mounts can make that big of a difference N/A?

As for the S2000, I didn't realize that it doesn't drop out of its powerband. If not, then that would explain why it kept up with the RS-T. I REALLY need to drive one of these things to see what they feel like.


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IIRC shifting @ redline you drop to 7600-7800 RPM...right back into the power band...like i said perfect gearing ;) I love the S2000 and it in now way compares to the RS....honda knows what they are doing when they build a high revving motor and a fast chassis, every car that some company has tried to mofidy and put their suspenion on is slower thru the slolam and the car gets VERY tail happy. But it's not a daily drivealbe car for 2 reasons A)The car is VERY tight, i mean SUPER tight to the point it's uncomfortable and B)you have to shift too much, it has good enoug gearing to make up for the lack of torque but if you are in 4th @ 40 you have to hit second to get any speed. But then again youpay at least 18g's more FOR an S2000.
 

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Nice looking vehicle I think, though the guy waited far to long for it in my mind.

I suppose that its "superb" gearing could make up for its lack of torque, but I personally don't think its worth it, too much shifting involved like you mentioned Jeremy. I would rthe just hit the throttle and let torque solve the problem.


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