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Well, we're getting around to this. Tonite at 9pm eastern, 8pm central, 7pm mtn time, and 6pm western, we'll be here in chat answering questions for a few hours. We don't expect too large of a turnout, but if you'd like to stop by and ask a few questions we'll be there. Your feedback will be immensly appreciated and will influence the development of our website and products.

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Gary M. Turner
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W're here if you happen to read this...prolly stick around for 2 hours or so... come on in!
 

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[01 15 19:01:34] [General] [ Entered: BJRs2point5 ]
[01 15 19:01:49] [General] [ Entered: PDMturbos ]
[01 15 19:02:14] [General] PDMturbos: hello
[01 15 19:02:20] [General] BJRs2point5: i was browsing the board and saw your post
[01 15 19:02:26] [General] BJRs2point5: decided to stop by
[01 15 19:02:30] [General] PDMturbos: Thanks for coming by
[01 15 19:02:36] [General] BJRs2point5: no prob
[01 15 19:02:47] [General] BJRs2point5: i like the look of your garret kit
[01 15 19:02:47] [General] PDMturbos: I'm Gary, the webmaster for PDMturbos
[01 15 19:02:51] [General] BJRs2point5: im brian
[01 15 19:03:02] [General] PDMturbos: Nice to meet you. Joel owns the place, but isn't here
[01 15 19:03:08] [General] BJRs2point5: cool deal
[01 15 19:03:27] [General] PDMturbos: He manufactures the kits with steve and albert.
[01 15 19:03:33] [General] BJRs2point5: cool
[01 15 19:03:38] [General] BJRs2point5: does he do the welding?
[01 15 19:03:38] [General] PDMturbos: I took on web duties
[01 15 19:04:02] [General] BJRs2point5: who does your fabrication?
[01 15 19:04:06] [General] PDMturbos: not all of it, but he does
[01 15 19:04:24] [General] BJRs2point5: thats good
[01 15 19:04:35] [General] PDMturbos: Steve, albert and joel build them all one at a time
[01 15 19:04:55] [General] BJRs2point5: do you have a jig that you build them on?
[01 15 19:04:59] [General] PDMturbos: We have jigs and proven performance parts, but somebody's gotta make em!
[01 15 19:05:07] [General] BJRs2point5: nice
[01 15 19:05:18] [General] BJRs2point5: what materials do you use for the pipes
[01 15 19:05:23] [General] PDMturbos: I put this website up with a different idea for a tuning company
[01 15 19:05:45] [General] PDMturbos: nothings imported 8 weeks after payment.
[01 15 19:05:59] [General] BJRs2point5: ok
[01 15 19:06:05] [General] PDMturbos: we use mild steel with coatings, stainless, or stainless with coatings
[01 15 19:06:17] [General] PDMturbos: with laser cut flanges
[01 15 19:06:53] [General] BJRs2point5: damnn
[01 15 19:06:56] [General] BJRs2point5: thats nice
[01 15 19:06:57] [General] PDMturbos: we prefer ihi tubos
[01 15 19:06:58] [General] BJRs2point5: stainless
[01 15 19:07:03] [General] PDMturbos: turbos
[01 15 19:07:07] [General] BJRs2point5: any reason for that?
[01 15 19:07:16] [General] BJRs2point5: for the turbo preference
[01 15 19:07:28] [General] PDMturbos: Garrets are for big hp, but they're rapidly improving in power, performance and reliability
[01 15 19:07:35] [General] PDMturbos: ihi's are subaru factory standard
[01 15 19:07:49] [General] BJRs2point5: so does that make them more reliable?
[01 15 19:07:55] [General] BJRs2point5: or civil for daily driving?
[01 15 19:07:56] [General] PDMturbos: I'll hafta check, but I think mitsubishi turbos fit on them, too
[01 15 19:08:02] [General] BJRs2point5: ya
[01 15 19:08:09] [General] BJRs2point5: the stock wrx turbo is a mitsu
[01 15 19:08:11] [General] BJRs2point5: i think
[01 15 19:08:18] [General] PDMturbos: yeah. 500hp isn't really ever meant to be daily driven
[01 15 19:08:27] [General] BJRs2point5: ya
[01 15 19:09:05] [General] PDMturbos: I want to record some of your questions, is that okay?
[01 15 19:09:10] [General] BJRs2point5: sure
[01 15 19:09:13] [General] PDMturbos: thatnks.
[01 15 19:09:17] [General] BJRs2point5: no problem
[01 15 19:09:34] [General] BJRs2point5: would it be possible to buy just the garret pipes
[01 15 19:09:39] [General] BJRs2point5: with the external wastegate
[01 15 19:09:45] [General] PDMturbos: lemme get a few things going, and I'll tak down some information
[01 15 19:09:53] [General] BJRs2point5: ok
[01 15 19:10:07] [General] PDMturbos: I'm using customer input to build teh site and faq pages. we're also getting our own forum software
[01 15 19:10:14] [General] PDMturbos: going
[01 15 19:10:14] [General] BJRs2point5: cool deal
[01 15 19:10:24] [General] PDMturbos: it's up already but no one really knows it's there
[01 15 19:10:49] [General] PDMturbos: brb
[01 15 19:10:55] [General] BJRs2point5: ok
[01 15 19:12:06] [General] PDMturbos: boiling some noodles ;)
[01 15 19:12:41] [General] BJRs2point5: lol
[01 15 19:12:43] [General] BJRs2point5: nice
[01 15 19:12:51] [General] BJRs2point5: drinking some beer here
[01 15 19:12:52] [General] BJRs2point5: lol
[01 15 19:12:58] [General] PDMturbos: perks of online rollouts :)
[01 15 19:13:16] [General] PDMturbos: no one has to dress fancy
[01 15 19:13:21] [General] BJRs2point5: i agree
[01 15 19:13:50] [General] PDMturbos: garret pipes at the moment are custom order. we're getting so many inquiries that we'll have to make them standard pretty soon
[01 15 19:15:37] [General] BJRs2point5: ya
[01 15 19:15:43] [General] PDMturbos: however....
[01 15 19:15:49] [General] BJRs2point5: i wanted the pipes because garret turbos are easy to source
[01 15 19:15:56] [General] BJRs2point5: and rebuild
[01 15 19:16:14] [General] PDMturbos: there's new developments, yet expensive, to use ihi housing with garret wheels
[01 15 19:16:30] [General] PDMturbos: that's for 400+hp though
[01 15 19:16:44] [General] PDMturbos: it also requires our secondary injector kjit
[01 15 19:16:56] [General] BJRs2point5: ya
[01 15 19:17:09] [General] BJRs2point5: i think if i was going big i would go with a standalone
[01 15 19:17:22] [General] PDMturbos: it's required for all 400hp builds, except for the wrx. parts are easier to find and teh ecu can still be happy with larger injectors in place
[01 15 19:17:35] [General] BJRs2point5: ya
[01 15 19:17:46] [General] PDMturbos: really, anythingover 250-275hp requires more fuel
[01 15 19:18:01] [General] PDMturbos: our injector kit works with the stock computer and the torque chip
[01 15 19:18:09] [General] BJRs2point5: like the one larry has?
[01 15 19:18:23] [General] PDMturbos: Joel built larry's car
[01 15 19:18:30] [General] BJRs2point5: oh
[01 15 19:18:30] [General] PDMturbos: almost all of it
[01 15 19:18:35] [General] BJRs2point5: well then
[01 15 19:18:39] [General] BJRs2point5: that explains it
[01 15 19:19:02] [General] PDMturbos: Braden did some work, but the pipes, intercooler, injector setup...they're all joels
[01 15 19:19:30] [General] PDMturbos: a car at larry's level rarely sees just one mechanic
[01 15 19:19:39] [General] BJRs2point5: i bet
[01 15 19:20:23] [General] PDMturbos: a car driven normally will still run for a very long time
[01 15 19:20:29] [General] BJRs2point5: thats good
[01 15 19:20:58] [General] BJRs2point5: does larry have abuilt motor?
[01 15 19:21:10] [General] PDMturbos: soon he will...by joel
[01 15 19:21:24] [General] BJRs2point5: i take it joel is a machinist by trade?
[01 15 19:21:39] [General] PDMturbos: subaru tuner, and machinst a very close second
[01 15 19:22:25] [General] BJRs2point5: i must say
[01 15 19:22:32] [General] BJRs2point5: i like the design of your kits
[01 15 19:22:37] [General] BJRs2point5: with the external wastgate
 

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[01 15 19:22:49] [General] BJRs2point5: how it dumps further down on the downpipe
[01 15 19:22:54] [General] PDMturbos: that's what we're gradually introducing on the website...a lot of people think this is just JC Sports version 2.0...he made the parts for them just like he does for larry.
[01 15 19:23:04] [General] BJRs2point5: thats what i have heard
[01 15 19:23:09] [General] PDMturbos: jc sports is defunct
[01 15 19:23:20] [General] PDMturbos: they're bankrupt
[01 15 19:23:43] [General] PDMturbos: Joel always has built parts, but never took on the public.
[01 15 19:23:51] [General] BJRs2point5: now he is going public?
[01 15 19:24:02] [General] PDMturbos: in a limited fashion
[01 15 19:24:06] [General] BJRs2point5: well the jc sports KIT was good
[01 15 19:24:17] [General] BJRs2point5: just jc sports had no customer service
[01 15 19:24:28] [General] PDMturbos: in a limited fashion
[01 15 19:24:54] [General] PDMturbos: this place is a bit bigger
[01 15 19:25:04] [General] BJRs2point5: thats good
[01 15 19:25:14] [General] BJRs2point5: where do you take the oil supply from?
[01 15 19:25:17] [General] PDMturbos: we don't do body kits, rims, and clear lenses tho
[01 15 19:25:23] [General] BJRs2point5: oh darn
[01 15 19:25:25] [General] BJRs2point5: lol
[01 15 19:25:41] [General] BJRs2point5: do you take the oil from the pan?
[01 15 19:25:46] [General] BJRs2point5: or somewhere else
[01 15 19:26:00] [General] PDMturbos: it returns to the pan..I think he taps a fitting on the back of the passenger side cylinder head.
[01 15 19:26:09] [General] PDMturbos: I'm getting one installed soon
[01 15 19:26:14] [General] BJRs2point5: nice
[01 15 19:26:26] [General] BJRs2point5: so do you have to tap the pan your self
[01 15 19:26:29] [General] PDMturbos: I'll know more about that stuff then. I have 3 inch catless race pipes :)
[01 15 19:26:39] [General] BJRs2point5: damn straight
[01 15 19:26:47] [General] PDMturbos: they work with teh stock ecu
[01 15 19:26:54] [General] BJRs2point5: interesting
[01 15 19:27:02] [General] BJRs2point5: how do you deal with enrichment
[01 15 19:27:12] [General] PDMturbos: you don't need a utec or tec3 or a link
[01 15 19:27:29] [General] BJRs2point5: what do you use then?
[01 15 19:27:41] [General] BJRs2point5: rising rate and a voltage clamp?
[01 15 19:27:47] [General] PDMturbos: a new fuel pump, fuel regulator, and a torque chip
[01 15 19:28:20] [General] BJRs2point5: it works
[01 15 19:28:31] [General] BJRs2point5: my friends 2.5rst was damn fast
[01 15 19:28:37] [General] PDMturbos: voltage clamps don't do much. the torque chip has circuitry, programming, and hard work
[01 15 19:28:46] [General] BJRs2point5: until he hit a pole//9
[01 15 19:28:48] [General] PDMturbos: brb...noodles are done
[01 15 19:28:52] [General] BJRs2point5: ok
[01 15 19:33:02] [General] PDMturbos: oikay
[01 15 19:33:39] [General] BJRs2point5: cool
[01 15 19:33:48] [General] BJRs2point5: i have to go in like 15
[01 15 19:33:55] [General] PDMturbos: cool.
[01 15 19:34:00] [General] PDMturbos: what else is on your miind?
[01 15 19:34:10] [General] BJRs2point5: mainly a FMIC
[01 15 19:34:21] [General] PDMturbos: water to air baby!
[01 15 19:34:26] [General] BJRs2point5: i suppose
[01 15 19:34:36] [General] BJRs2point5: greater thermal efficiency
[01 15 19:34:39] [General] BJRs2point5: more weight
[01 15 19:34:58] [General] BJRs2point5: plus in socal you get mad respect with a FMIC
[01 15 19:34:59] [General] PDMturbos: cooler intake charge and better throttle response. an FMIC is just as heavy
[01 15 19:35:14] [General] PDMturbos: with a water to air...no one knows you have it :)
[01 15 19:35:17] [General] BJRs2point5: i like the simplicity of air to ait
[01 15 19:35:20] [General] BJRs2point5: ture
[01 15 19:35:27] [General] BJRs2point5: but i have a 200 rs
[01 15 19:35:32] [General] BJRs2point5: not exactly sleeper
[01 15 19:35:36] [General] BJRs2point5: 2000
[01 15 19:35:57] [General] PDMturbos: no...but most know it's no turbo'd...I have a blue OORS 2 door
[01 15 19:36:06] [General] BJRs2point5: nice
[01 15 19:36:09] [General] BJRs2point5: silver here
[01 15 19:36:12] [General] PDMturbos: cool
[01 15 19:36:17] [General] PDMturbos: gc8 baby!
[01 15 19:36:21] [General] BJRs2point5: hell ya
[01 15 19:36:32] [General] BJRs2point5: none of this ugly wrx bullshit
[01 15 19:36:41] [General] PDMturbos: hafta give love to hte wrx tho..it's a new version of what this car started
[01 15 19:36:49] [General] PDMturbos: I love the 04 body style
[01 15 19:36:53] [General] BJRs2point5: ya
[01 15 19:36:58] [General] BJRs2point5: not as much as mine
[01 15 19:37:05] [General] BJRs2point5: thats why im keeping it
[01 15 19:37:24] [General] PDMturbos: same here...there were only a few thousand Rs's sold from 98-01
[01 15 19:37:28] [General] BJRs2point5: and thats why i need to turbo it
[01 15 19:37:31] [General] BJRs2point5: ya
[01 15 19:37:42] [General] PDMturbos: very few blue 2 doors tho
[01 15 19:37:42] [General] BJRs2point5: something about being unique
[01 15 19:37:46] [General] BJRs2point5: ya
[01 15 19:38:02] [General] PDMturbos: a loyale with a turbo swap is unique, too :)
[01 15 19:38:09] [General] BJRs2point5: lol
[01 15 19:38:11] [General] BJRs2point5: yes it is
[01 15 19:38:12] [General] PDMturbos: it accepts a lot of later year parts
[01 15 19:38:22] [General] BJRs2point5: bet that is fun
[01 15 19:38:36] [General] BJRs2point5: it has been good talking to you
[01 15 19:38:39] [General] BJRs2point5: but i have to go
[01 15 19:38:42] [General] PDMturbos: the one I rode in wasn't turbo'd, buthad a 2.2 phase 1 block...
[01 15 19:38:43] [General] BJRs2point5: ill stop in later on tonight
[01 15 19:38:50] [General] BJRs2point5: very nice
[01 15 19:38:51] [General] PDMturbos: k...prolly be in bed pater
[01 15 19:38:57] [General] BJRs2point5: late
[01 15 19:38:59] [General] [ Gone: BJRs2point5 ]
[01 15 19:39:00] [General] PDMturbos: drop us a line...
[01 15 19:42:52] [General] [ Entered: scoobygtr ]
[01 15 19:43:00] [General] PDMturbos: hey
[01 15 19:43:17] [General] scoobygtr: Whats up?
[01 15 19:43:28] [General] PDMturbos: just finished up my noodles :)
[01 15 19:43:54] [General] scoobygtr: I want to your site for the chat
[01 15 19:44:09] [General] PDMturbos: it's not up yet...still trying to debug it
[01 15 19:44:20] [General] scoobygtr: ok
[01 15 19:44:22] [General] PDMturbos: but soon!
[01 15 19:44:30] [General] PDMturbos: what's on your mind
[01 15 19:45:05] [General] PDMturbos: I think I've talked to ya in here before
[01 15 19:45:18] [General] scoobygtr: yup
[01 15 19:45:34] [General] scoobygtr: 4eat torque chip
[01 15 19:45:42] [General] PDMturbos: yes?
[01 15 19:46:12] [General] scoobygtr: emission labels on the turbo and intake?
[01 15 19:46:29] [General] PDMturbos: for ours in Cali?
[01 15 19:46:55] [General] scoobygtr: yes but I'm in virginia
[01 15 19:47:07] [General] PDMturbos: not yet. We've passed colorados with flying colors plenty of times.
[01 15 19:47:16] [General] PDMturbos: turbos and all
[01 15 19:47:21] [General] scoobygtr: cool
[01 15 19:47:26] [General] PDMturbos: good tuning is the key to passing emissions
[01 15 19:47:37] [General] scoobygtr: true
[01 15 19:47:41] [General] PDMturbos: ours are even done on dynos
[01 15 19:47:47] [General] PDMturbos: 4wd's included
[01 15 19:48:02] [General] scoobygtr: I like that
[01 15 19:48:58] [General] PDMturbos: our bolt on 5psi kit will pass. it has cats.
[01 15 19:49:05] [General] PDMturbos: stock ecu, too
[01 15 19:49:17] [General] PDMturbos: the torque chip is emission friendly
[01 15 19:49:31] [General] scoobygtr: I notice you have a listing on another sites
[01 15 19:49:44] [General] PDMturbos: which one?
[01 15 19:50:03] [General] scoobygtr: I think it imprezaRS.com
[01 15 19:50:12] [General] PDMturbos: yeah. we built larry's car
[01 15 19:50:17] [General] PDMturbos: joel did, actually.
[01 15 19:50:40] [General] PDMturbos: don't worry, we're not JC Sports version 2.0
[01 15 19:50:47] [General] scoobygtr: How are they doing with the install.
[01 15 19:50:53] [General] scoobygtr: Ha Ha
[01 15 19:51:40] [General] PDMturbos: don't worry, we're not JC Sports version 2.0
[01 15 19:51:45] [General] PDMturbos: weird
[01 15 19:51:54] [General] scoobygtr: yup
[01 15 19:51:56] [General] PDMturbos: okay...software bug
[01 15 19:52:08] [General] PDMturbos: anyway
[01 15 19:52:21] [General] PDMturbos: joel has built subarus since a large number of us were in diapers
[01 15 19:52:35] [General] PDMturbos: late 70's
[01 15 19:52:54] [General] scoobygtr: are you going to be doing this chat again?
[01 15 19:53:03] [General] PDMturbos: possibly
[01 15 19:53:10] [General] PDMturbos: good response so far
[01 15 19:53:19] [General] scoobygtr: Good
[01 15 19:53:25] [General] PDMturbos: I wanted to put this chat software up on the site
[01 15 19:53:38] [General] PDMturbos: just not there yet
[01 15 19:53:58] [General] PDMturbos: check out the forums, tho
[01 15 19:54:21] [General] PDMturbos: www.pdmturbos.com/aspforum/default.html
[01 15 19:54:30] [General] scoobygtr: I 'll be talking to you again have to get up to work at 3:30
[01 15 19:54:41] [General] PDMturbos: ahhh... sleep is good!
[01 15 19:54:48] [General] scoobygtr: Nite
[01 15 19:54:53] [General] PDMturbos: cya
[01 15 19:55:00] [General] [ Gone: scoobygtr ]
[01 15 20:11:31] [General] [ Gone: PDMturbos ]
 

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Thanks to those few guys who showed up. I was on till 11pm mtn and that was it! I figured it start off slow with a small turnout. But, we'll probably plan a bit more for next Wednesday, the 22nd. Thanks to those guys who stopped by. Gary
 

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Yo Gary,

Unfortunately once I leave work I don’t have access to a computer so I won’t be able to participate in the chats you guys are doing. And to be honest I don’t want to read them, I feel like my eyes are going to fall out of my skull after the first 50 lines. I have questions and concerns pertaining to the kit PDM sells. Who should I email them with?

L8Rs,

-J
 

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Round 2!

Well, we got some really good feedback from this the last time. We'll be back there again Wed., Jan 22nd. at the same times listed in the first post.
 
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