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Hey y'all I joined back in high school when I was looking at an RS. Sumbled upon this thread and wanted some input. I have my eyes on a 91 4 door justy that needs some motor work done. It has a clean body and interior. What would a car of this caliber go for and what does a good running 8/10 car go for?
Not on here as much as I used too lol.....
It very much depends on the shape of the engine at this point. Is it just a simple oil leak from a seal, or is it needing a complete new crank/bearings/etc? If it is just the leak than you may be in for a treat. Most gaskets and seals for the 1st and 2nd Gen Justys are out there, either on Ebay or Dustysjustys.com
If the engine work is more major than a seal or leak, and you dont want to be compiling parts together from separate people over the course of a couple weeks,months, (or in my case) years, than dont even think of buying the car. Not me being a **** or mean in any way, or in any way shape or form commenting on your mechanical abilities. I am merely stating facts that in this day and age, the Justy is little more than a memory. Most people will just crush the entire car before fixing a CV shaft, let alone a completely blown engine.
I am one of the few on this earth that still love and keep Justys going, so there is a little bit of hope
If I have any of the parts needed for a rebuild and you are serious about making a road worthy Justy than I would be glad to help. If you want to buy a Justy for a derby race and destroy it, I will play the card of the elderly man down the block that would not sell me his 1970 Chevelle the second he heard me say "drag car" :drunk:How clean is the car as well? Any tears in the interior, dash cracks, buttons missing, original clock, radio, etc? I am not one for spending tons on Justys, just merely based on the fact that they are not considered collectors cars or anything yet. Soon........ but not yet. I paid $250 for mine with 2 spare engines and another complete trans, in running condition. My body is about 5% rust on the qtrs and thats about it. I have seen super clean, but non running cars go for $1200-$3000
-Jamie
Zeus Motoring
I'd love to have a Justy as a DD
Thank you for this post. I agree with everything and appreciate your words. I used to think I was also not one to spend tons on a Justy, but I did some math a while back. After I came to, I realized I have spent over $10k USD on my '91 4WD Justy over the past ~9 years. This includes a transmission rebuild and 60k service at a Subaru dealer, repairing/restoring the wicked plaid interior over the years, completely new braking system, M/C and all, two window regulators so far, and piles and piles of other brand new parts from subaruparts.com. Two clutches (I can explain LOL), a distributor, all 4 struts brand new from Subaru - the last ones so I was told, several sets of front axles and other drivetrain parts, soooo many parts. I have changed plugs, cap, rotor, fuel filter and cam cover gaskets 3x on this car. I guess this is why I can never sell it. 96k miles, bought it around 49k. Those are expensive miles. It's an Alfa in a Subaru suit.Not on here as much as I used too lol.....
It very much depends on the shape of the engine at this point. Is it just a simple oil leak from a seal, or is it needing a complete new crank/bearings/etc? If it is just the leak than you may be in for a treat. Most gaskets and seals for the 1st and 2nd Gen Justys are out there, either on Ebay or Dustysjustys.com
If the engine work is more major than a seal or leak, and you dont want to be compiling parts together from separate people over the course of a couple weeks,months, (or in my case) years, than dont even think of buying the car. Not me being a **** or mean in any way, or in any way shape or form commenting on your mechanical abilities. I am merely stating facts that in this day and age, the Justy is little more than a memory. Most people will just crush the entire car before fixing a CV shaft, let alone a completely blown engine.
I am one of the few on this earth that still love and keep Justys going, so there is a little bit of hope
How clean is the car as well? Any tears in the interior, dash cracks, buttons missing, original clock, radio, etc? I am not one for spending tons on Justys, just merely based on the fact that they are not considered collectors cars or anything yet. Soon........ but not yet. I paid $250 for mine with 2 spare engines and another complete trans, in running condition. My body is about 5% rust on the qtrs and thats about it. I have seen super clean, but non running cars go for $1200-$3000
-Jamie
Zeus Motoring
In happier news, I talked to some Suby owners (Brat and a 360 van) at the Japanese Classic Car show last year and when my wife mentioned "maybe you could bring the Justy some day" they were like "WHAT!!! YOU HAVE A JUSTY??? WHY ISN'T IT HERE" and such. So, maybe it will be starting soon. I keep waiting to see a Justy pop up on Bring a Trailer - to see how retarded the comments will be, or...? Sadly a pretty much perfect '90 5spd 4WD Loyale wagon came up and people were saying it should only be worth $2500, which is absolutely crazy for an unobtanium 24 year old car that takes a crazed fanatic to maintain.
This is a great idea if you also own a Corolla or something.
But, jokes aside, my '93 was a great car, cost $600 to purchase, and I think I put something like 10k miles on it daily driving it for a while. I did all the work myself on that one, while I have paid to have some things done on my '91 4WD in the last few years (water pump rebuild for example). The '93 only failed me a few times. The most embarrassing was a timing belt failure in San Francisco traffic. "Yeah, just keep honking, maybe you can honk me out of the way hahahahahaha..."
I believe though that if I did not have the prior experience of owning/working on the '91 and knowing a lot of the unique things about a Justy, the '93 would have probably been a totally different - and terrible - experience. My cousin has my old '93 now, and she loves it, but it has needed some work to keep it going to be sure. I should write a book about the Justy for future generations.
In all seriousness, as much as I truly love my Justy with all my heart, it is not a good choice for a car that you must depend on, for many reasons. Through no fault of it's own, you could be out of commission for weeks/months while waiting for some important thing to come from Japan.
I still dream of owning a silver '88 2WD GL. 4WD is fun, but it's all about that taller final drive for us pavement folk.
I wanted one of those so bad! I had an '86 GL coupe, which was as close as I could get - same body, and it was even white. It was my first car and it lasted three days.
Wow, I guess I missed a bunch of posts!
Awesome!! I am genuinely curious as I noted you seem to have an engine block heater. How does the Justy do in cold temps? I mean like as cold as say -20C. I have driven mine in and through snow quite a bit actually here in CA but never that cold. It seems to not fully warm up in sub-zero temps though that may just be a problem with my 3rd thermostat. I ask because I am considering a move to a land of km/h and -20C winter temps and I really want to bring my Justy with me.WOOHOO! I can join this club again!!
Found one on friday after work, picked it up on saturday for $1000.
1995 Subaru Justy GL
172000 km (thats like 25 miles to you americans):lol:
So here's a few pics
Overall, a couple things to fix, the front passenger fender was replaced and needs to be repainted and aligned properly. There is a small leak coming from the headgasket, clutch is on it's way out, and a couple very small rust spots to fix. Oh, and I gotta cut that goddamn heatshield off the exhaust...:lol:
4WD works perfect, strong compression on all 3 cylinders, I'm just excited to have one of these again!
I have been using a Thule rack on my Justy since 2008 and it's fantastic. I can get pics and part numbers off it if you want. I am sure you can find the parts on eBay and the bars are standard Thule parts. No drilling needed and it comes off in a couple minutes.A '95 is a rare sight indeed (last import into the states was in '94, Canada had an extra limited year to I believe about 3800+ models). Looks to be in decent condition as well (Great interior, I am jealous) ,and if it runs and works you scored a diamond in the rough
All and all, I am happy to see another member save a Justy from a crusher and making these sweet little cars seen on the roads again
I would like to know the make of that roof rack though as I am looking for one for mine. I was going to mod the WRX bars to work, but at this point I dont want to drill into my roof ;P
-Jamie
Did you ever get anywhere with this? I can do up some drawings possibly and have a friend who has a vinyl sticker cutting business (and does great work).On a separate note, I am looking for a member that can draw a couple designs of a Justy side profile (2dr/4dr). I am looking for something similar to the RS25 versions with just the bodylines accented.I plan to make some stickers for the owners on here and the Justy forum. I have seen Brat versions on Ebay, it's time for the Justy to have one
Thanks for all the Justy support on this site as well, this really is a great community of car enthusiasts
-Jamie
As of late I have not messed with Rusty. I have been more into climbing boulders and rocks, lol. I found a roof rack that will work for Rusty as well, but I appreciate the help
As for the decal, I actually had Matt send me a drawing and it is perfect. I just need some startup money to make a couple dozen or so happen for us rare guys that have them
I totally agree with your wife as well about the Justy being a collector car soon. I have been asked multiple times to sell my project and all my custom made parts for $1500-$3000, but the car is not going anywhere, lol. I feel that if we hang onto these cars, eventually ( and not that far off), people will be searching for one to restore, collect, race in some weird 90's only midget race, whatever the case may be In fact, my last call up to Rocky Mountain Roos went like this......Me "Hi, I was wondering if you had any Justy parts, mainly the engine?"
RMR "Are you talking about a REAL Justy??"
Me " Lol, yes, what other kind is there?"
RMR "Lol, well to be honest you are the first person to ask about a Justy in years, lol"
Me " Yeah, I need another engine to go turbo on, if you have one I will come grab it today"
RMR " TURBO JUSTY!!!!, BADASS!!!! DEF come up and talk to us and we will help you out, NP , just be sure to bring the car too, lol"
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-Jamie
Zeus Motoring
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I wonder how they de stroked the 1.2, just by using 1litre rods and pistons and then bringing down the deck height? Wonder what the bore to stroke ratio was after?![]()
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1988-1989 Subaru Justy LSR Salted Scooby By JOHN MATRAS It’s called bench racing, those idle discussions about what if and just maybe. Most go no further than that. Reality and the crush of day-to-day life usually set in. But occasionally lunchroom chatter becomes a world land speed record. It happened with nine Subaru employees and one pre-production 1987 front-drive Subaru Justy. The lunchroom group discussed taking a Subaru to Bonneville—easier and cheaper than racing any circuit for a season—but the records for the classes for turbo-charged and normally aspirated Loyales were “pretty stout,” recalls team member Roger Banowetz, now at Subaru Research & Development. “One of the guys suggested the Justy and we all laughed at him.” The 1.2-liter mini-Sube was long on economy, EPA rated at 38/41 mpg, but wasn’t without performance potential. It had an sohc two-intake, single-exhaust valve aluminum head that made the little three-cylinder a nine-valve engine. Another asset was the composition of the team. The group of volunteers from the California-based Subaru Technical Center brought a variety of talents to their after-hours project of making a racer from the Justy. The car would compete in a “production” class, which naturally doesn’t mean “stock.” It did mean a stock body and standard layout as well as a carbureted engine running on gasoline. As no car had ever bettered the Southern California Timing Association’s base time of 115 mph for I-Production, the team from STC destroked the 1190-cc triple to displace 997 cc. A custom billet steel camshaft, 12:1 pistons and steel tubular exhaust headers were fabricated for the engine, as was a custom intake manifold to mount the three 40-mm Mikuni motorcycle carburetors in place of the stock two-barrel Hitachi carb. Engine mods included using titanium valve spring retainers, removing the balance shaft and removing the springs from the bearing seals to reduce friction. A stock, Japanese-market 1.0-liter Justy crankshaft and connecting rods were used, however. As Banowetz says, “In all, very few racing components were used. [It was] a very stock and strong Subaru Justy.” Indeed, it eventually produced 120 hp at 9200 rpm, against the stocker’s 66 hp at 5200 rpm. Rules allowed lowering, so the Justy was dropped three inches, decreasing frontal area, and a small Japanese- market front spoiler was added. Although stock trans-mission and final-drive ratios were used, the gearbox ran ATF for reduced friction. A homemade cool-fuel can looks like it was made from your grandmother’s cookie canister. “Cool” air was routed via the cowl and from behind the grille, the airbox made from a Pampers box and duct-taped together at Bonneville. Although an accessory tachometer was installed, the Justy’s dash, front and rear seats and even carpeting remained. A full roll cage was installed. The STC team took the Justy to Bonneville in August 1988, achieving a two-way average of 117.553 mph, a new I-Production record. A return the following August after a year of engine work yielded a “down run” speed of 123.938, with a return speed of 122.570, its engine screaming at 11,900 rpm through the traps. The two-way average was 123.224 mph, a new record and one that stands today. The Justy still exists, but it hadn’t run since it set the record. Subaru put it in running order again, and we not only heard it but drove it—a little—as well. Don’t doubt we heard it run. The unmuffled exhaust gathers an immediate crowd. The three-cylinder actually will idle, though it has a lean stumble until revs are added. Then it’s like lighting a fuse on this nickel rocket. The Justy’s curb weight is only 1700 pounds, so 120 horses launches it hard. Hmmm, wonder how many horses a full 1.2 liters would make? Maybe we could give those hot-rod Honda guys something to think about if we got an old Justy, cam specs from Subaru, some motorcycle carburetors...![]()
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