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Fwiw,

As far as I'm concerned you could do a lot better building yourself a bar. With a little aluminum, a little ingenuity, a few tools, and a couple hours work, you can make one that is stronger and not as ugly as most commercially that are available. I made this with $40 worth of aluminum stock $10 woth of SS bolts and $5 of cutting at a metal shop.

It's not the most beautifull thing on earth, but it is damn sturdy!!! Not even a hint of jiggle, and that is the big problem. Let me tell you those 4000's are HEAVY!

Take a shot, it's much more satisfying to do a custom.

Pete W.
 

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yeah, I run the white covers most of the time. I gotta get a couple of sets of the clears tho. A couple because I have 500's in the fog spots now, and clear because the white Hella ones are a bit too flashy for public consumption. I get people who pass me then slow and pull along side and give me dirty/ astonished/ enraged looks and or gestures all the time when I have the covers ON! With them off not many people seem to notice.

As for the $40 for aluminum stock. I tried a few cheaper versions, I think this is EVO4, and all of them jiggled like a biotch with the 4000's. So I brought out the big gun. It's 4"w X 5/8", super hard (don't remember the #), flat stock. I can stand on the mounts, and have ;) , and move the whole car around without ANY perceptible flex. They are totally beefy. I like overkill. :biggest:


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yes sir that's it!

You are indeed correct. They are mounted up into the bumper beam. I thought of many different ways to mount them, but none were as simple and direct. Direct is the key to preventing jiggle. The longer the un-supported mount the more likely to flex.

I also thought about different ways to bolt to the beam. It's really too complex to use nuts and bolts thru the bumper skin. My way isn't as glamorous, but again simple and direct. I used 3/8" ss hex head lag bolts 1 1/2" long. They are plenty tought and very tight. The threads don't deform at all. I kinda thought they would, but nope.

There is a 1/4" gap between the beam and the skin. It deforms a little when you crank the bolts down, but not noticably. And it pops right back when you take them off. You can't see the holes unless you lay in front of the car too. Guess lightweight bumper beams are out tho :D

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Destroy??? LOL

They are insanely heavy. The lamp is all metal. Not a scrap of plastic. I would say A pair of 4000's weight as much as 4 pairs of 500's. They make 4X the light tho :)

I also have 500 driving beams in the stock fog spots. They work great when angled out for use as cornering lights. However, if the are aimed forward, they are nothing. With the 4000's lit I can switch the 500's on and off and not even notice a difference. The beam of the 4000's is kinda unreal. But there are better I've seen the 4000 motorsports (HID) coming at me and they are 10X brighter than my 4000's which are crazy bright to begin with.

I'm a big hella fan needless to say.


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