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Hey everyone. Everyone who drives on the stock RE92's know that those tires suck bad. I got the Dunlop SP Sport 5000 tires put on and they grip a lot better when I do my maneuvers (the stock ones screeched @ 25 mph at a moderate 90 degree u-turn). I got these instead of the better High performance tires because I live in Minnesota and I have to love my car all year round. This set grips a little more in the snow, but not as good as some Blizzacks out there. Does anyone have these tires and notice other characteristics of these?
 
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I liked my RE92s.
I like my Sport 5000s better.

Why? Because the 5000s do ALMOST everything that the RE92s did, but WAY better. :)

I say almost, because I don't feel the 5000s are as durable for driving on gravel/off-road. The 92's seemed to hold up really well, considering they aren't a rally tire.

But the Dunlops stick better wet, dry, snow, they might be a hair louder, they resist hydroplaning a bit more. Great all-around tire. Not something you'd use for auto-X if you're looking for an all-out performance tire, but for general driving, can't be beat by much in its price range.
 

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Good to know. I've been debating between SP 5k's and RE950's for a while now, but I think I'm going to go with the SP's.
 

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I just got back from my first Auto X with the SP 5000's.

Man, compared to the RE-730's they suck. They break loose way too easy, they screech like crazy, and they are not as controllable as the RE-730s. BUT, on the plus side, they did not chew themselves to bits like the RE-92's do, and they are great street/snow tires so I am going to keep them for daily use.

I'm just going to get some Type R tires for racing! :lol:

BTW, I got my ass thoroughly kicked by a 1.8T Jetta with some fat Kuhmo Type R tires. By like 4 seconds! :curse:
 
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BTW, I got my ass thoroughly kicked by a 1.8T Jetta with some fat Kuhmo Type R tires. By like 4 seconds! :curse:

Putting an all-season tire up against a race compound tire is alot like taking a knife to a gunfight.

Having said that, I don't currently autocross my car. For my purposes, they're awesome. Obviously you should get something more purpose-built if you're going to compete. :)
 

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The Dunlop SP Sport 5000 sure doesn't have the monster grip intended for auto cross, but the reason I slapped these on was because they're the top tire to perform in snow and is an all year performance tire... they fit our stock rims, too. Joy! If I can auto cross, I'd rather use better rubber.

Out of the blue, do you think getting in a accident while autocrossing is covered by the insurance company? I was told by my agent that putting a turbo/supercharger is fine (lie???), but taking it to the race track and having an accident @ the track it won't be covered.

Speaking of insurance... may god strike me if I shouldn't, a rating from 'U' (i think) to a '20*'. A geo metro is given a rating of 'U'. Letters 'U' being a geo metro - 'Z' being a geo tracker, and #s '1' - '20*' being an Acura NSX. Well, we're all placed at '1.' The Impreza RS is considered 'Sporty' not 'HIgh performance'... to me that sounds a little offensive, but at least the insurance companies don't charge me as high as the weakest integra, the rs model. :nuetron: ... just my two cents for everyone...
 
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Acuras and Hondas get the distinction of being stolen all the time, so insurance for them is adjusted on the high side. Wait a year or two... after more and more WRXs get lifted they'll jump the rate again.


And auto-cross is not a race. It's a timed event. Or so I've been told. But at some point you have to pay to play, so if it's a concern, just don't push your luck to the point of crashing into anything. Besides, auto-cross and rally-cross tracks are supposed to have run-off areas so you don't hit stuff, aren't they?
 

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I don't know... all I can remember is this small video clip of a dodge viper rally-crossing and slamming into a few guys on the side. Ouch! ...the insurance claims... I think I'm just a little paranoid about paying a whole lot extra to the jacked up insurance companies. Watch out for those sideline guys.
 

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At my Auto X this weekend two guys were dead set on standing on the high side of a wide sweeper. Before the race ever started we nicely told them we thought that was not the best place... they responded by saying "Thanks for your concern." They made it sound more like "Fuck you" but oh well.

So about 5 minutes into the runs some car goes sailing off course - a MR2 I think - and nearly runs them both over.

Then about 30 minutes later another car goes sailing off and nearly kills them. I finally told them "You guys need to move before you get killed - now!" and they kind of bowed their heads and shuffled off.

One more accident and I think our regions SCCA folks could have lost their insurance coverage - which means no more races! :curse:

Use your head out there people... Some idiots are running SP 5000's... like me... and I might wipe out! :lol:
 

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hahaha, are the Dunlops that bad? :run: ...wait, what type of tires does the Subaru WRC use? It goes on snow, gravel, tarmac, rocks, water, bubbles, etc. I want some if I knew what they were and they gotta be around the price of the Dunlops... :happynow: I'd think that'll be awesome... even though I tend to stay on the road to get where I wanna go to. It'd be best to have though :drool:
 

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Don't get me wrong - the SP 5000's are great on the street. Very predictable, very smooth, quiet, and handle the snow very well.

But when I'm nose diving into a corner on the track... :run:
 

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i've been quite happy with the sp5000s. certainly not race tires, though i did auto-x on them once for fun and they weren't bad as long as you didn't come in too hot to a corner. if you did-hello understeer. that being said, they give good performance on the street and are espeacially nice in the rain. in the snow, they aren't great, but they aren't bad either. as far as gravel goes, they're about the same as any tarmac all-season. i noticed next to no difference between them and the re92s. flimsy sidewalls don't matter for cornering as much when the tread doesn't grip enough to put a heavy load on them :) i can't wait for my rally tires to show up :D

about insurance-an auto-x is defined as a driver education event, same with a track day. this does NOT consititute a race. also, the scca has special insurance for damages incurred during one of their sanctioned events. people have gotten covered by their insurance for damages from auto-x and track days, though i'm sure they got dropped after the claim.
 
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I don't know... all I can remember is this small video clip of a dodge viper rally-crossing and slamming into a few guys on the side. Ouch! ...the insurance claims... I think I'm just a little paranoid about paying a whole lot extra to the jacked up insurance companies. Watch out for those sideline guys.

:eek:

A Viper in a rally-cross? (?????)

You do know that rally-cross is dirt, right.


I remember (and still have it saved) the video of a C5 Vette going off (big) at an auto-cross and taking out some people. That was sickening.
 

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I am extremely pleased with my 5000's. I also feel that they do very well on snow and ice, maybe it's my excellent driving and not the tires, yea thats gotta be it.:biggest:
 
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