[Templar]

The APEX coil overs that are beeing sold by TRI and others. It looks like my deal for the used Tein HA's have fallen through so I am now looking for something else, and I am hoping to stay under $1500. The car is a daily driver, but I am willing to put up with some discomfort on the road as a trade off for better performance in autocross and on road courses. I looked on the "WR ecks" club but no one has posted any kind of performance info on them. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

 

[pleiades]

No, but

I'm intersted!

 

[Scooby South]

Hey Kent...what about GFB coilovers???? just not adjustable...they are Bilstien Copies....Seem to ride very well on my Friends GC8 downunder????

 

[Templar]

Well, I really want that adjustability. You know me, I can never leave well enough alone and I must have adjustable struts so that I can screw around with them endlessly. Maybe I should just drop a big wad for some Tein RS circuit masters, 16 way rebound and 16 way damping adjustable for a total of 256 different combos. I could drive for 9 months without the same setting twice...:biggest:

But seriously, if anyone knows anything about the performance of the APEX, let me know.

 

[skeptik]

this post probably won't help you much, but i wrestled between dms and apex a few months ago before finally purchasing the golds. i wrote chris at tri several times but couldn't get enough info for my satisfaction. you may have better luck now with feedback as i believe they sold in the neighborhood of 30 in august/september. seemed to have alot of trouble getting them in to the states. they sure are pretty, tho'. on the other hand, the dms are down in the 1600's now. and as i said in another post, the only thing i'd do different is order them with a little stiffer rates - 350/300 or so vs. 225/180.
love 'em anyway

my 2 pennies...

mark

 

[Hndatch627]

i would honestly go with DMS...seen what they can do and seen what they have taken and i am VERY impressed, if i hadn't gotten sucha deal on my AGX/Eibach Sport combo i woulda went the DMS route.

 

[Templar]

I know that the DMS is great, and I still may go with a set of the M2 40mm made by DMS, but I am just one of those guys that always likes to take the road less traveled, it is usually twisty and fun to drive on. Why else would I be designing a supercharger kit. I just like to go against the norm I guess.

 

[Hndatch627]

when you get that SC kit done give me a hollar...any idea on when?? yeah i am pretty much the same way. That's why i don't own a WRX!!!! Or a Civic Si for that matter.

 

[8Complex]

Honestly, I love my setup - AGX's and 5Zigen springs. For some reason, the idea of height adjustability is just too much for me... I'm too lazy to ever adjust them. :lol:

 

[Hndatch627]

Honestly, I love my setup - AGX's and 5Zigen springs. For some reason, the idea of height adjustability is just too much for me... I'm too lazy to ever adjust them. :lol:

yeah ur too lazy to get dressed...how in GODS name do they expect you to adjust suspesion height!!!! haha....just playin nick

 

[Templar]

Back to the APEX coil overs

Well I just learned through a source that I don't really trust that the piston on these is 25mm. That seems kind of small to me, but then someone said that the AGX had like an 18mm. Does this sound right to anyone?

 

[Hndatch627]

sounds right...if i get time i will measure mine with a caliper tommorrow.

 

[skeptik]

i had fair results when i contacted Apex USA

good luck

mark

 

[Templar]

HndaTch627, Are you going to take the strut apart? You can only measure the shaft from the outside, not the piston.

 

[Hndatch627]

oh my bad...didn't realize they were talking about shaft diameter, i was thinking piston diameter...sorry

 

[Pilot]

Just to make life more interesting H&R now has a stage 4 coilover kit for the GCA with 400 lb/in front and 450 lb/in rear main springs. The setup is threaded body Bilstein/DeCarbon style monotube inverted struts using a dual spring setup at all four corners. The part number is 29375-1 for the GC8. That's all the details I've got.

-Drew

 

[Templar]

reply from APEX

Okay, I got an email response from APEX north america and here is what they have said.

They still didn't give me the piston diameter, but they did tell me that the shaft is 22mm, which would lead me to believe that the piston has to be bigger than 25mm, otherwise their would be no room for the valving between the shaft and the inner strut body. They have said that the spring rates arre normally set for street use at around 200# f/r, which is around DMS street recommendations. He said that the struts are capable of handling up to around 350 lb/inch rates before they start getting to harsh. The biggest problem is that unless you want the stock spring rates, there is difficulty in getting the higher rates, and it is going to be around 3 to 4 months.

Anyway, maybe I will just go with the Tein HA like I had been thinking and get 6kg/mm front (391 lbs/inch)and 5 kg/mm rear (326 lbs/inch) instead of the 7/5 that they normally come with.