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Hi everyone, I'm new.
Cobb is promising 50-60 hp gains and low to mid 14's ET with their stage3 power package. Has anyone here gone with that? Do you guys think it's credible? And also, is this way safer and more reliable than going with turbo?
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Well, I don't have the power package, but I do think it's a credible claim, as Cobb has a very good reputation, and he also has a dyno. I'm not sure about how the reliability factor is compared to a turbo setup, but I would immagine they are pretty equal, especially since the Stage 3 package is new heads and cams with strengthened parts. The transmission will still be the weak point, but this power gain should still keep the power level below the boom threshold of the tranny.
 
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but this power gain should still keep the power level below the boom threshold of the tranny.
Until some loon throws the bottle at it. :)

But I'd think NA would be easier on the tranny, as there isn't a huge hit when the turbo kicks in - it's more of a smooth delivery.

I think I'm going to ask for cams for my birthday. :p
 

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do a search on i-club, youll find more info than you want, as well as dyno graphs.
 
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OK I've seen the dyno chart for a stock w/street cam, but does anybody have a sheet for the spicy cam? I know the power is made higher in the revs, but what happens lower down? And is there more power? If spicy just means the power is shifted higher, I wouldn't go that route - don't want to have to get a computer to take advantage of it, you know.

Hell. I probably won't buy cams anytime soon, but I'm going to throw them on my wish list. :)
 

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From what I understand, the Spicy cams give up a good bit of low-end power to make lots more power up high, plus they give a pretty rough idle, and I've heard that they also have a tendancy to throw a CE light. I want the street cams, as those should also work well with Templers stage-1 SC setup:spin: But I gotta get a job first to pay for all this stuff....
 

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I would actually think the NA setup would be harder on the tranny... It would be torque from the launch, which would stress the driveline the entire time. Maybe I am wrong, but it seems right to me...
 

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are the SPICY cams suited for turbo applications? Or are they just an upper trim of the NA cams?

maybe the street/turbo cams are better?
 

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I believe you can't use the spicy cams or wouldn't want to with a turbo. The duration is a bit to long I think. The street/turbo cams are the way to go for Forced Induction. I'll be going this route once Templar finishes/finalizes the SC kit.
 

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FuJi K said:
are the SPICY cams suited for turbo applications? Or are they just an upper trim of the NA cams?

maybe the street/turbo cams are better?
From what I have read, any cam that has "open" valve overlap (which I *suspect* the Spicy cams do) are bad performers for a turbo.

Remember, the turbo is forcing air into the piston. Well, if the exhaust port is still open while it's doing that, then all that pressure is just blowing right out the exhaust side, defeating the purpose of turbo charging and pressurizing the cylinder.

You'll want the exhaust valve fully closed when the intake valve opens, which many wild street cams often don't do.
 

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Like this?!


WTH, why can't we attach images?! Is this I club? :p
Read the announcement that is at the top of EVERY forum. :lol: PHP has a security vulnerability with file uploads, and until they come out with a patch for the server I am using, no uploads. Sorry! :p

BTW, I just saw an ad last night for a flamethrower for your exhaust pipe. I didn't see how much it cost, or how it worked, just a big disclaimer about hurting people and not being held responsible and off-road use only!!! :lol:
 
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