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I don;t think the all NASCAR thing will last to long. They will lose most of their fanbase and commercial sponsors (like Subaru) and bring back the programing that everyoen loves. I think it starts mid February or march

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I hope you're right Imprezinator. I heard NASCAR's the "fastest growing spectator sport" right now. Thank God that's only something I heard and not something I know for a fact. That'd be scary if it was :eek:

I don't think the soon to be Speed Channel is gonna go all out NASCAR. Just more coverage of it compared to what they've got now (which is utterly too much IMO :barf: )

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From what i've read, they are cutting out a lot of the TV magazine shows, informercials, air plane programming, and boat programming because they are the least watched shows. they are still having WRC, F-1, Touring (lemans, sebring, etc..) and others that are more popular shows.
 

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You know I never cease to be amazed by how few Subaru people understand NASCAR... But there's only a few thousand Subaru people in this country, all total maybe a third of the attendance of a single NASCAR event... It's funny how many times I saw posts about WWF on the i-club and everybody knew all the key characters, then when it comes to NASCAR it's like it is Satan Spawned...

Look I watch NASCAR from time to time, though less since Dale's crash. I'm not going to say anything about the racing...

But at a commercial level it is totaly successful here in the states. EACH EVENT has at least 100,000 in attendance, and there have been races with over 200,000 in the stands. Then there's all the people who come out but don't go and sit in the stands for the race(camping, parkinglot parties) And this is different than Football, the people sit around for two or three days, as opposed to a few hours.

Then the TV viewing audience, Huge. The fans are all very very brand loyal and feel it an element of national pride to watch every single event.


Now we have an F1 event in the states again, and outside of Indy how much do you realy hear about it? Does ESPN run a hour special? They have daily NASCAR shows now. People have had the chance to go and spectate at a Rally race in their area at least once a year, thanks to SCCA(local chapters running TSDs and what-not) Are there ever spectators? If so do they ever add up to more than 100?


I'm not going to predict the success of F1 and Rally/WRC in the U.S. But these are relatively new sports to us Yanks. Or atleast it's been a long time since we've had much of anything even closely resembling it. Who's to blame Speedvision for going where the money is? Yeah, it sucks that it's going to be next to imposible to get good WRC coverage without a foreign dish. And yes perhaps the U.S. will build up a good fanbase and things will start to happen and you and I and our Fathers and our Brothers will be the ones you see running out of the road as a AWD rocket comes blasting over a jump. But in the meantime Speedvision is going to go where the Established Customers are and do all they can to appeal to those people and take the money floating around NASCAR.

Face it, it's about money. Speedvision started with a great idea, provide decent to excelent coverage of all racing. Now they are moving into a Niche, not from the pressures of competition(wouldn't it be great?) but because in that Niche they will find a huge and dependable group of customers, who will then attract better commercials... Yadda yadda on down the line...


Okay, you can now kick in my head. I hate what I had to say too.


BTW, anybody else notice that this year Europe was making an attempt at circle track Stock cars racing? Worst part is the name -> ASCAR


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:stupid: Just kidding.

What i don't like about nascar is the mild oversights like the taurus coupe, all v-8 powered , RWD, manual tranny, don't run in rain and only run 2 non round courses. I feel that a race car should either be a race car (F-1, Cart, IRL, LMP900. etc..) or a production based model. I really like to watch the BTCC, and aussie touring cars, which in many ways is similar to nascar, but with very important differences. I think if it is stock car racing they should be stock cars, with safety modifications, Ie. rally cars.
You haven't been able to buy a v-8 RWD grand-prix since 1987. So what gives????

My .02

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I heard that all day (from early morning to late nite) they will have nascar and then the off times(late nite to early morning they will have the other). I usually fall asleep around 930 (not by choice but because I am sooo damn tired) so i guess i wont see much.

I used to watch nascar and indy races alot but now rallys are more exciting to me!
 

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And so you know, I would never flame NASCAR. I am a diehard NASCAR fan and block off Sundays to watch it.

Eric
 
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