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al rite. what i want is to swap my gc8 in my 00 2.5 rs and get a nice turbo's wrx engine. i just need advice, ideas, experience, what ever you can dish out. oh and mabey some price listings.... thanks.


oh and for those that live in th e LA/OC areas (california) i need some advice on those guys over at GT PRO.... they're working on my friends vr 4 and say they can do some good shit on my car?.. what do you think
 

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well having done this first hand and currently STILL doing it.(long story my tell all will be out as soon as the drama has ended) anyway just make sure you have another car and make sure you got some extra cash(which i had, but my patience is wearing thin.), because problems will arrive and you should really change a bunch of other things along with the engine. also realze that once you do have it those who can get you parts for it and work on it are few and far between.

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i didn't do a transplant but i did do a full engine trans mod and; engine out three times, trans out five times. two years and i am still sorting it. so by all means yes! it will teach you patience on a zen level. obtw my car is finally coming together and it is spectacular. the longer you wait for something, the better it is.
 

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Well, I'm sure I'll get the same feeling when the car is finally done, shouldnt be to long now, can't imagine getting in the car now that it will have nearly double the HP. Should be LOTS of fun. :devil:
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5252 said:
! it will teach you patience on a zen level.
elaborate..... why would i need that much patience.. is it a good or bad idea to perform (or have someone perform) said swap?
 

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Wiz, do you need a 94-00 engine? I have a 95 clip with low miles if your interested. Email me. :biggest:
 

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hey wizbizcus,
i think what 5252 is refering to is the many things that come up and prevent you from getting the project finished, and the problems you get from other areas since you now have alot more power. basically this project becomes one that lasts the length of the vehicle, because the other thing that happens in once you taste some real power youll only want MORE! :drool:


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The toughest part will be the wiring harness. Unlike Hondas, there are no pre-made harnesses (that I know of) to install the JDM WRX engine in your car. You'll need to cut, switch, reconnect & splice about 40 wires to each other to get that engine & ECU to work with the rest of the stuff in your car. Personally, I wouldn't trust a Honda shop to do that, unless they can show you that they've performed the swap successfully in another Suby. For general engine swaps, I've heard good things about Hook-Ups in Upland (909) 373-RACE, but that's for honda stuff.


check www.i-speedusa.com , they're the Suby swap specialists as far as I know, and they're in CA somewhere. Full USDM 02 WRX engine in your car for $7k, and that includes wiring, piping, and all other misc. parts (turbo crossmember, etc. etc...). You'll be CA smog legal to. JDM engines might have trouble with pinging, but I couldn't tell you for sure.

Another excellent resource is Mike Shields www.spdusa.com , he's got a JDM engine in his Impreza , and he's located closer to us, Huntington Beach I think. He's a smaller operation, and will probably cost more. Check out his website though, www.spdusa.com see the difference. This man was one of the few who started the aftermarket for Subarus in the U.S, back before the 2.5RS arrived in 1998.

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here's what you're getting into: 45 hours of work, it's been said...
 

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ok so what if i supplky my own parts... i mean everything.... for how much could a shop perform the swap with wiring and everything?
 

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Between $1,500 and $3,000 for a full JDM drivetrain depending on where you go. Then there's always the more expensive shops that will charge over $5,000, but that is the average range.
 

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Well, make sure you have EVERYTHING you need. Here's a partial list I can come up with offhand.


turbo crossmember (US-spec crossmember doesn't fit JDM headers)

2 wiring harnesses to cut apart; 1 from the original car, one from the original engine (I think that's how it goes, I havne't done the swap myself)

2 wiring diagrams so you know which wires go where. (one from engine, one from car)

make the JDM exhaust piping match your exhaust piping, might need different cats, I don't know.

possibly need new clutch & flywheel.


I dunno, but I'm sure there's more I haven't mentioned. Just to be safe, you'll probably want to have an extra $1K for parts besides the ones you think you need, and assume the job will be 50 hours of labor. Plan on not having your car for a couple weeks while the job's being done, longer if you need parts ordered from Japan.

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well from whjat i hear i need clutch and flywheel... i need new fuel injectors... let see... new ECU... gauges and i hear from the guy that can source me some JDM engines that i need a new intake manifold


so i'm beggining to think twice about peroforming this swap.... is it such a good idea... should i just go with an aftermarket turbo on my GC8?
 

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well from whjat i hear i need clutch and flywheel... i need new fuel injectors... let see... new ECU... gauges and i hear from the guy that can source me some JDM engines that i need a new intake manifold
You should look for a complete engine which will have the injectors, manifold, ECU, harness, etc. If you get a engine/tranny together it will have the clutch and flywheel plus the added strength of a turbo transmission so you won't blow yours.
 

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I would recommend getting a USDM wrx engine, because of the smog nazis in california. Also there are more and more people who are doing this swap, so you'll have better support from people who have done the swap than if you tried for a JDM engine.

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If you get a JDM short block like I did, you can add all the US WRX components. That is, if the short block is for 00-02 models. You can always build a US spec engine and upgrade later, after all your factory components are working properly. I have just about everything for the car, including factory support on tech specs and diagrams, so it may be a bit easier for me. Financially though, it's up to $18k so far. I'm thinking 6 months and about $15k more to be at the level I want to reach. That's getting the engine and drivetrain in the car and running.
Some $20k more after that I hope to be at a fully complete custom car from the ground up, including a wicked paint job.
Come see me in about 3 years.
 

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if you're all about the turbo and all about the power with the budget for a swap then why not try this route? should be a lot easier for a shop to pull off than a full out swap. definately not smog legal though.

http://forcedairtech.com/FORCED-AIR-TECH-STAGE4-KIT.html
wow thats absolutely fucking indredible!!!! so is it really only capable for up to 400 hp cuz if i spend that cash on a single stage 3 turbo setup i bet i could get more hp than that.....

what do yall think?
 

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turbos are exchagable, it does state that this setup has almost NO LAG. you could easily decide on different turbos for higher numbers but the statements they say no longer hold true. what it seems they've done is try to make a kit without lag, not boost hp(or your manifold) through the hood. decide on a number you want to reach and go from there.
and remember, the rally gods usually shine on your car when you're not driving:sunny:
 

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well what i want to really do with my car is make it an incredible 1/4 mile machine.... so turbo lag is not that important but i don't want an excess of it either.... i just want my car to run like mid to high 12 even low 13's (w/o a N.O.S.)... lol thats JUSt what i want to do.. like its easy.. but yeah so the minimaliztion of the lag is not that important...
 
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