Misinformation leading to my mistakes .. so you dont have to repeat.
Lets start with rule #1..
AEM meth kits are shit.. (never had one.. but read so many bad things on the meth forums, so stay away from that one)
Some companies lie on pump ratings.
Given that most of them use the same Aquatec 5800, some rate at 160psi and same at 300psi...
~160psi would be the correct number.
Most meth kit mfg will say.. put the nozzle 6" before the throttle body..
This is wrong...
You need to put it as far as possible from the throttle body.
This gives time for the meth mixture (usually 50-50 with water) to cool the air and get absorbed.
Depending on effect desired its best to put it right after the intercoler. (that is if your intercooler is efficient or big enough to cool the air charge)
If your IC is not.. then you can put one after the turbo.
There are also ways to increase your turbo efficiency by spraying pre-turbo.
Here is a chart of possible nozzle placement.. (just missing the manifold location)
Best setup for knock supression is direct placement in the manifold in each runner.
This guarantees that each cylinder sees the same amount of the mixture.
Couple this, with the after intercooler nozzle(s) for best results.
You'll get the anti-knock properties from direct injection plus cooler air charge, which should also increase your knock threshold.
This was where the old 2 nozzles were.
Given this.. and the knock I was seeing with really low timing, it was time to put few holes into that manifold that I spent hours and hours polishing and cleaning up..
I've ordered a Prometh kit.. with a nice manifold and all..
Very pretty, aluminium with stainless nozzles...
or is it ???
The nozzles I ordered were about 1/2 the size of my Aquamist nozzles.
Given "the rule".. the smaller the nozzle the better the atomization..
Started testing, made some vids.. (thus crappy pics)
So for shits-and-giggles I wanted to see how this compares to my old Aquamist nozzles.
This is how they flow at lowest duty cycle...
If you pause for a second you'll see 4 jet streams..
Here is a pic of Aquamist at 50% duty cycle. (rated at 510cc and 440cc @160psi)
I've cricled the mist and the nozzle.. so you know.. you could see it...
(Oh.. yes.. the Aquamist at its lowest duty cycle still sprays a mist..)
And Prometh at the same DC. (rated at 240cc @160psi)
You be the judge now..
But wait.. there is more..
After seeing such shitty results from smaller nozzles, I've decided not to use them and ordered a new kit from Aquamist.
Putting away all nozzles Aquamist and Prometh back into a box..
(actually trying to return them.. but after restocking fee and shipping I'd get back $50, cant return the nozzles, just the manifold. So maybe at least they are good to water a veggie garden?)
After about a 1.5 months.. the Aquamist kit arrived from England.. yay !!!
Was so excited, and wanted to see how the flow compares to the Prometh.. as size wise they were pretty much the same.
Took out the Promeths out of the box.... to see this.
But wait.. there is more... (filter)
Even the nozzle itself had rust !!!
3 out of 4 nozzles didnt flow at all.. The one that did, was just dripping.
Now.. It would be unfair if I didnt check Aquamist nozzles.. so I opened them up as well.
(The rust spots you see on the cloth, are from cleaning the Prometh nozzles..)
As you see ZERO rust or dirt.
Here is an over all test with 3 Aquamists, ranging from 240cc - 510cc against a 240cc Prometh.
Pressure wise .. its just tap water.. at around ~50-70psi.
Here is why the Prometh is such an inferior product.
Despite the shitty atomizations pattern for its nozzle size.. its made from 3 different metals!!! (steel, stainless, aluminium)
The spring and filter arent even stainless !!!!
Now.. thank you gut feeling.
Back to install.
Here is the after intercooler nozzle. (to reduce IAT)
And the individual manifold nozzles.
And here are the results.
On average there is a drop of about 15-20F.
Was expecting a bit more.. but it will do for now.. (maybe will go to an even bigger nozzle in the future)
Notice how the IAT sensor lags...
Ah yes.. had to edit..
Because I forgot rule #3.
Always, always check your pressure after installing the nozzles.
Mine was at 130 psi with 4 nozzles !!!
Bumped it to 200-210. (as per Scott)
Got this gauge from usrallyteam.com...
I've picked the owner's brain quite a bit.. so the info you see here is from him.
Thanks Scott !!!