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Who has managed to get these to fit? I don't want to see reponses that say no way man can't happen becasue I am willing to roll fenders and whatever else.

My setup is going to be Subzeros in 17x7.5 et48 with Falken Azenis 225/45/17. I need that width and low sidewall to be more competitive in STS this year so what do you guys think what will I have to do to get it to fit?

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since the offset of your wheels is +48mm, i think 225/45/17 will rub. but your ride height is another factor. what type of suspension are you running?

i have 215/45/17 RE730s on volks te37k 17x7.5 +48mm and it rubs when i lower the coilovers all the way down.

so right now, i set the ride height at about 1 inche finger gap between tires and fenders. this is after getting my car corner weighed/balanced at a custom alignment place. no rubbing on hard cornering.

if you are running coilovers, you should get the car corner weighted and balanced first.

just an idea..

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I run DMS 40s and I only lower about 3/4". I plan on rolling my rear fenders, I already removed the strip. If they don't work maybe I can sell them to a GDA owner or get adj strut tops.
 

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skidplatez,

I have a MY99 and tried the exact same tire/wheel combination. I had horrible rear fender rub with it. The tire made contact with 1/2 of the lip on the inside of the rear fender. It looks like rolling the fenders and a slight ride height increase might have been enough though. I just wasn't willing to do it, so I sold them and put on a set of Toyo Proxies (T1S) 215/45R17 with no problems to date. I am/was running ver 5 struts with Eibach progressive-rate springs and about a 1" drop with -1 degree rear camber.
 

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You had -1 rear camber and still had that much rubbing? are you sure about that camber setting? <crap>

Also when you say it was rubbing half the fender lip do you mean the actual metal fender lip(part of the body) or the rubber fender lip edging/liner(detachable)?
 

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Yeah - I needed an alignment anyway, and sure enough, it was -1.2 on the left and -1.4 on the right. It rubbed the entire rubber lip off in that area and took the paint off some of the metal portion as well just from one hard corner. The Azenis is a great tire, but its square profile is very difficult to fit it under our wheelwells. Also, I measured the 225 and it was more like 232mm wide. I know there are people who fit the 225 in there, but on stock wheels. I'm not trying to talk you out of it or anything, but make sure you're willing to roll the rear fenders if you're dead set on the Azenis.
 

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Here is my experience with the subzero's and Potenza S-03's. I'm running the 5-Zigen Springs with KYB-AGX struts. Tire size is 215/45/17. I rubbed. I had to have the rear lips rolled slightly. No more rub though. I think that 225 might be pushing it.
 

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RS_NW do you know how much the 5zigen springs drop?

I'm am still hoping to make this work but I'm am getting more and more worried. :confused:
 

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Yeah, when I was running the RE-730's with Tien Medium springs (dropped me 2 + 3/4") I had to remove my front fender linings and roll the rear fenders, and still rubbed on heavy cornering for a while. Then they finally wore themselves away and didn't rub any more! :lol:
 

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I have Yokohama AVS int 225/50-16 on the stock rims. Only problem is that the rear tires rub against the strut so I had to use a 3mm spacer on the rears. The fronts fit great, no rubbing isssues. Car is lowered on Cusco Comp 2 with the second to last stiffest setting, with a about 3/4" clearance from the tire to the fender. Hope that helped a little.
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Well..one point to ask is if the wider wheels will be a benefit? Usually, wider is better, but that isn't always the case right? I was considering putting 225 on myself, but for will it improve the handling with everything else being equal?



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For the most part 225/45s are taller than stock, so if your NA you're giving away horsepower and increasing unsprung weight leading to slower steering response. The slight increase in grip isn't worth it in my opinion.

I'm running Michelin Pilot Sports in a 215/40/17 on my GC8 with the really rare Rota Subzeros (aren't they giving them away in cereal boxes now?). This setup is 8lbs lighter per wheel than my previous setup which was a set of Speedline Piero R's with the same sized Bridgestone SO3s. And I can feel the difference in accelerating and deccelerating. Bigger is not better in this case... FYI, I'm running -2.5 up front and -1.3 in the rear. The car sits level, I don't remember the height except that the bottom of the headlight to the ground is 22" with no rubbing.

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I'll be running 215/45 17 Azenis ST 115's w/ Rota Subzeros this summer so I'll let you guys know how they handle compared to the standard azenis. I'm on STI V5 suspenion so I'll report any rubbing, although the V5 stuff only dropped my car 3/4" so it could be different.
 

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For the most part 225/45s are taller than stock, so if your NA you're giving away horsepower and increasing unsprung weight leading to slower steering response. The slight increase in grip isn't worth it in my opinion.
Ignoring the weight, because I can get a setup that will be 225/45/17 and lighter than stock. Is this still true? I don't really think so, the arguments you put forth are about weight not taller tires, right?

One of the main reasons for me to do this is to get a couple more MPH out of 2nd gear as a result of taller tires. If I didn't care about the low gearing in the RS I would go for the 215/45/16 Azenis and be done with it.
 

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Its twofold for the most part, weight is also an issue unless you're able to get a setup that is lighter than stock ($$), which you say you can. 225s are about an inch taller than stock, personally I just can't give away that horsepower.

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skidplatez,

[email protected] has run 225/45/17s successfully on his car with the Cobb CT1 wheel. The only mod to prevent any sort of rubbing was the removal of the rear wheel liner. Fronts were A OK. I think the key was the offset. The rim itself was a 7.5" in width.


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Question!!

215/50-16 would be a proper +0 size from OEM, correct? And it should fit without any problems?

(I'd assume so, since a +1 is 215mm in width anyway, in a 17" size, and it doesn't rub.)

Thanks. :) I want to up the width a bit on the summer tires I hope to buy soon. The only option I've found in that size is BF Goodrich Comp T/A KDW, but that's cool, they're good tires.

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Siper2,

It'd be really close. I know some people run 215/45/16 Falken Azenis. It is not the exact same as a 205/55/16 though.

I think some of the guys at Tire Rack would be better to ask as far as the + sizes, I'm not 100 percent sure about some of the other tire sizes, etc.


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