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i think it is equally often that as the price of a car inflates due to development and performance parts that a nice stereo and seats come along with it to help justify the price, ie "im paying damn near 3 series money for this, i outta get some nice ****". another way of saying, i bet if they took out that stuff you didnt want it would only drop the price 1-2 thousand.
 

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does Canada not have a base trim? No leather, no power seats, no name brand stereo or moonroof on it vs the Premium/Limited or Sport/sport-tech in canada language :D. Keep in mind, your car came with "a giant stupid stereo" too. As for the climate control, whether it's automatic or not it makes about 1lb of a difference in weight. Otherwise it's used just like the climate control knobs in my rs.

You keep saying 3 Series(RWD) money, yet there is a $6,000(USD and CAD) difference in MSRP when comparing base models. 180hp with RWD vs 268hp with AWD. Want to get an AWD 3 Series? that is a $10,000 difference. Not really a good comparison to me. Yes the 320ix is a superior car in almost every way, but you're also paying a premium for it.
 

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i think it is equally often that as the price of a car inflates due to development and performance parts that a nice stereo and seats come along with it to help justify the price, ie "im paying damn near 3 series money for this, i outta get some nice ****". another way of saying, i bet if they took out that stuff you didnt want it would only drop the price 1-2 thousand.
It probably would but all that crap is still stupid :)

It's actually coming out to exactly the same price down to a few hundred as the Tacoma I'm looking at.

does Canada not have a base trim? No leather, no power seats, no name brand stereo or moonroof on it vs the Premium/Limited or Sport/sport-tech in canada language :D. Keep in mind, your car came with "a giant stupid stereo" too. As for the climate control, whether it's automatic or not it makes about 1lb of a difference in weight. Otherwise it's used just like the climate control knobs in my rs.

You keep saying 3 Series(RWD) money, yet there is a $6,000(USD and CAD) difference in MSRP when comparing base models. 180hp with RWD vs 268hp with AWD. Want to get an AWD 3 Series? that is a $10,000 difference. Not really a good comparison to me. Yes the 320ix is a superior car in almost every way, but you're also paying a premium for it.
My car came with 4 speakers and a head unit. Doesn't an STI have like 12 and a subwoofer?

35,900 for a 320i in Canada according to BMW Canada's website. Base STI starts at 37,995. Base STI breaks 50k taxes and freight in.
 

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It probably would but all that crap is still stupid :)

It's actually coming out to exactly the same price down to a few hundred as the Tacoma I'm looking at.
on that subject, since you know i just bought a taco, a buddy who works at auction just had a 2014 tacoma come through, about 15k miles, dual cab short bed, NO off road/towing - sold for $30k!! hahahahaha i bought mine brand new with the offroad package for a grand more than that hahaha insane how these things hold their value, you can forget the 20% loss after driving off the lot thing

that being said, if i was only going to have one car id get the STi

base model 320i wouldnt even be on my radar. and id much rather have subaru AWD. id def go 1 or 2 series if i was thinking BMW, and would def stick to RWD ...i feel like thats the whole point of a BMW
 

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There's really no point in buying the 15 sti unless you really dig the new. There essentially the same as the previous generation which are now considerably cheaper.
 

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I wouldn't buy a BMW at all personally at this point. Maybe an E46M3 or something.

on that subject, since you know i just bought a taco, a buddy who works at auction just had a 2014 tacoma come through, about 15k miles, dual cab short bed, NO off road/towing - sold for $30k!! hahahahaha i bought mine brand new with the offroad package for a grand more than that hahaha insane how these things hold their value, you can forget the 20% loss after driving off the lot thing

that being said, if i was only going to have one car id get the STi

base model 320i wouldnt even be on my radar. and id much rather have subaru AWD. id def go 1 or 2 series if i was thinking BMW, and would def stick to RWD ...i feel like thats the whole point of a BMW
I think I'm gonna go taco and a boat or something.. I don't have the facilities to go road racing, the budget for rally, or the interest for autocross so not a whole lot of point in a 300hp sports car for me at this point. Thought about an STI and a beater truck but I'd drive the truck 80% of the time.
 

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There might be, and that's something to consider. Bugeye WRX would be fun and sub 5k. Also might find myself a decent deal on a preowned BRZ.

If I decide I want to bad enough I can probably swing an STI as well as a taco...but **** that's a lot of money tied up in cars.
 

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I'm waiting for the STI to get the new motor. I'll sell my 2015 WRX for the STI once they make the change. 2016 WRX/STI are going to be the same as the 2015.
LOOKS LIKE ITS SOONER THAN WE THOUGHT, BROS



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