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Old 03-29-2012, 10:42 AM   #1
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Default Jonny O's 2001 RS. Cursing, crude humor, and flying ball bearings inside.

Hi guys and gals. Figured it was time to stop peeking in your windows and come on it. I guess this is as much of an intro as it is about my new RS.

I have been lurking here for years. Made a profile after I bought my RS just to PM folks for parts, and have finally decided to get the ball rolling here as I’ll have some questions and need some opinions.
Here’s a long winded story of my Subaru love.

I have been a Subaru guy for years, but they have always been my winter beaters. I work in the motorsports industry and have a summer street/strip car, so something fun to slog around in through the Ohio winters was what I was looking for. Years ago in college I landed a clean low miles 96 5-speed 1.8 liter Brighton. I drove the piss out of it for years. Changed the oil, rolled the windows down and cranked my door only speakers until they were popping and cracking and enjoyed every minute of it.
Then, my buddy, a Sergeant and Motor Transport Operator in the United States Marine Corps at the time, did this.




It was all good. He was fine, no one else hurt, so I was cool. Here’s a quick excerpt from the time. Mind you, he was 3 days out of a deployment:

"The issue is that Stan was on his way home from a shooting range when he ass-fucked my Subaru. As soon as he slid across the oncoming lanes, puckered over a 6 inch concrete curb and bounced into a cement light pole base, he went into Iraq mode. His marine buddy screeched up next to him and flung the door open. Stan grabbed his rifle out of my back seat (yes he did actually have enough inertia to bounce off a concrete pole, and yes the door still opens and closes fine) and dove head first into his buddies back seat. I'm lucky as shit he didn't have a grenade on him, protocol is to disable the vehicle so the enemy can't use it. I understand, he bashed the fuck out of his head on the window. It looked like someone took a mark mcguire roids infested swing for the fences, and stans head got in the way.
Anyway, explain that one to the impound lot. "I swear sir, the guy jumping out of the car with a rifle and screeching away in another car isn't fleeing the scene, he's just going to get medical attention."

A great insurance policy and a great body guy got me rolling again. I loved the car too much to give it up.
Fast forward 4 or 5 years and the Brighton is still my winter beater and hillbilly offroad buggy.
I’m living in an apartment/shop/garage when the city opens the reservoir North of town and floods me out.



I had my project car, tools, and apartment belongings to worry about saving…. So the Brighton sat out front, under water, while I strolled around in waders packing shit up.
A few days later a couple buddies I work with dragged it to our shop at work, stripped the interior, sprayed out the computer with electrical contact cleaner a few times and fired her up.
Believe it or not… besides some rusty exhaust and brake rot, and some squeaks and rattles and cracking seat covers, she’s still running.
She’s rough around the edges now. She moans like an old girl, but she still gets me where I need to go. Talk about a survivor.
She’s undergone all of her regular maintenance by me, and received a rear disk swap thanks to her new surrogate father in law, Buurma.

Fast forward about a year and my life is settling back in and it’s time to find the RS I have been dreaming about for years. I was having trouble finding a clean RS and broke down and started looking for bugeyes. One I really liked fell through, as the woman who was selling it had a last minute change of plans. But… her boyfriend just happened to be selling an 01 rs 5-speed. The car I couldn’t find in acceptable shape for years was a few blocks from my apartment

So, I bought this beast: Or WTT: 2001 RS Coupe. No Rust! tastefully modded

Here's the first pic I took of her:



A big thanks goes out to Buurma for letting me peek all over it night after night and answering a slew of questions about it. I was more purchasing Buurma, his knowledge and his willingness to be on-call for those “what the fuck is this green wire” phone calls. It came with a stack of receipts and maintenance logs and all showed that the car was well cared for. In talking to Buurma, I felt confident.
Drove it for less than one oil change over a few months and decided to take a 7 hour road trip to see some friends and a bitchin rockabilly band.
And of course. She stopped on the highway. In Maryland. Not sputtered. Not choked. Stopped.
I pulled her over, checked the obvious, then called for a flatbed. I got it to a buddies house in Gaithersburg Maryland (I live in Norwalk Ohio) and tried to figure out what the fuck to do next.
My girlfriend is a teacher and needed to be home the next morning, and the lopsided cranking of the motor led me to believe it was timing related. So, I borrowed my buddies truck (the same buddy that wrecked the Brighton) and drove home, turned around the next morning and put his truck on a flatbed behind my work rig and towed it back down south, and turned around with my RS on the trailer. And yes, the Rockabilly Band was a great show.







Once I popped the inspection cover and peeked inside, I saw this:
Look close. There's something there that shouldn't be there.




And then, of course, the inevitable:



I had receipts for belts, water pumps, tensioners.... but no idlers. The one that popped was from the factory. 170k+

So... let this be your lesson, from your good buddy Jonny-O. Change all the idlers at least once in 200k.

There were ball bearings everywhere. A couple actually made it North to the Crank sensor which I thought was pretty artistic:




So, On to the next chapter.... I found a great deal from a guy who buys junk cars for $500 running or not.

By the way. Here's a picture of me showing off a knuckle buster.
I like hotrods, loud music and long walks on the beach.
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Old 03-29-2012, 10:42 AM   #2
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UPDATE: Teardown carnage and scratching out a plan.


UPDATE: Waiting on parts and what I did with the downtime.



PHOTO UPDATE: Disassembled bottom end.

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PHOTO UPDATE: Port Work Porn.



UPDATE: Days into weeks.


UPDATE: Conduction Killers.



UPDATE: Call me crazy. Conduction Killers-Part II


UPDATE: The "one bolt" philosophy.



UPDATE: Running out of **** to do.



UPDATE: Damn.



UPDATE: The flood. And paying penance to the Subaru gods.


UPDATE: Shortblock assembly with a side of head flow work.


UPDATE: Assembling the heads.



UPDATE: A hillbilly solution to a redneck problem.



UPDATE: Dirty bunghole.


UPDATE: The move.


UPDATE: Install. Part 1.



UPDATE: Install. Part 2.



UPDATE: Loose ends.


UPDATE: Wreckoning day. Part one. (sic)


UPDATE: The rest of the Start Up Story.



UPDATE: Injector issues.



UPDATE: Well. It runs. And how a Barbie water bottle will hopefully save the day.


UPDATE: Thanks Buurma.


UPDATE: Doing something I hate. And driving. And clearing off the camera.



UPDATE: Break in finished, new shop and a passing grade for the Barbie oil catch can.


UPDATE: An over-engineered coolant recovery and scrounging for a work bench.



UPDATE: Winterizing, some Brighton work and getting used to the new digs.


UPDATE: The list.


UPDATE: The best 150-bucks I have ever spent. Warning: minimal Subaru content.


UPDATE: Cat Homework.


UPDATE: No time to update. Still chasing a misfire code. And Bob liked my moped so there's a moped update for him.



UPDATE: Busy guy finally gets time to put his header on.


UPDATE: Oil cooler (warmer) finally on.


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Old 03-29-2012, 02:01 PM   #3
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The story had no ending Great work so far.
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I came for the cursing and crude humor, but I'll stay for the gore pics
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:15 PM   #5
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Well, I see why your car decided to just stop.
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Hey i remember this car, fun times, you always remember your first

i'm hookin up ol jonny-o on some cylinder head port work. i still drive by his place and rev so he doesnt lose interest in his subi lol
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:39 PM   #7
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The story had no ending Great work so far.
This story is long from over as it's in progress as we speak. Those cats you sold me are on the Brighton by the way, the one in the water. Thanks again.

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I came for the cursing and crude humor, but I'll stay for the gore pics
Plenty more of all of the above.

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Well, I see why your car decided to just stop.
The cams were still turning with the crank, but obviously the passenger side was WAY late due to the slack. I'm thinking the crank sensor taking a ball bearing bukkake is what shut spark down. Unless the crank and cam sensors talk to each other.

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i'm hookin up ol jonny-o on some cylinder head port work. i still drive by his place and rev so he doesnt lose interest in his subi lol
Jonny O's girlfriend: "Is that Buurma again? You shouldn't have given him that exhaust. Fuck. I thought it was annoying sitting on the floor in the living room."
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Old 04-02-2012, 12:48 PM   #8
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you seem to be in the rockabilly style of fashion

and you like hotrods

youre cool. shitty luck about the timing though
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I never put the two together that you were the same guy. Well glad to know i helped in keeping her going
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Old 04-03-2012, 01:11 PM   #10
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UPDATE: Teardown carnage and scratching out a plan.

We had the accessories off the motor, changed the bad idler and performed a compression test before I even had the thing off the damn flatbed. 180 and 184 on 2&4 and zilch on1&3.
Also managed to let the wind whip the radiator off the trailer to it's probable doom. I swear I think I'm cursed.

So a big thanks has to go out to Buurma for keeping up on his sale. Guess he deserves some seller feedback, eh? Buying from the right person is just as important as buying the right car in my eyes. He could have said “sorry about your luck” and moved on. But he was busting knuckles on a flatbed in the cold wind with me, then came back to help yank the motor.

Option A was to buy a junkyard head and go thrash.
Option B was to pull out all of the possible variables and dig into the motor. It didn’t burn any oil and believe it or not, the head gaskets were holding strong at 170+k. But I was scared to button it back up and not know what else is left in there from the factory that could leave my dick hanging in the wind on the side of the road again.


So… here we go…. Jonny O’s naturally aspirated daily driver build:
Plans include:
-Bearings.
-Rings (hopefully the pistons aren’t FUBAR and cylinder walls look ok)
-Balanced rotating assembly. Hopefully my guy can do it with the pulley and flywheel like my old school stuff.
-Delta regrind on the bump sticks.
-Whack the ugly off the heads (maybe a thinner head gasket)
-A lot of fresh “maintenance” items.
-Maybe a lightened flywheel.
-Buurma felt so bad about it that he found a slave labor shop to do some port/polish work on the heads and intake. Quality work for cheap is hard to find.

Here’s a photo update to catch up to current progress.
Happy to be using one of the side shops at work. After the flood I moved out of the most amazing apartment/shop on the planet and it sucks to not have room.



Pumping the jack and taking pictures is usually my strong suit, but sorry for the fuzzy shots. Yeah, I know, that's what she said.




Valves were tweaked like pierced nipples. All 4 exhaust valves on that head.






Definitely kissed the pistons enough to scare me. If this were a chevy I would skim the top of the pistons and be fine with them, I guess we’ll see how they look cleaned up.







A little more carnage. Check out the bearing in the bottom of the plastic.






170+k cylinder walls still show beautiful cross hatch even through a cell phone shot. Unbelievable. Cross your fingers for a hone and go.






Cam cover held the pulley in enough to keep from bending more valves.




Head bolts after a 20 minute parts washer soak and some scotchbrite love. Some discoloration on a couple deep in the threads. Oil from a head gasket? It wasn't rust. More like scale, but not coolant scale. Any fear for reuse, or is this how they all look?






Bumpsticks ready to ship to Delta. Spent a lot of time on the phone with Scott. Seems like one of those guys who cares. That helps. The advice alone would warrant double the cost they charge. I had a lot of questions as all of my previous knowledge of valve lift, timing and cam geometry flies out the window on this little motor. And I already have a radically overcammed street car. I have learned a lot by sitting down with the cam spec print-outs he sent for different grinds. Thanks Scott.




On to a few questions. I have done a ton of reading and searching and found most of my answers, but here are a few things I am still unsure about:
-Do piston/valve makeout sessions in these single cam motors ever squash the ringlands like in other motor designs? I’m hoping the tops can be buffed out. If I have to replace 2 pistons, I’m going for a mild bore and compression bump with 4 new slugs.

-Scott from Delta recommended leaving the stock springs. I’m cool with that as skimming the dead side of the lobes will effectively raise the pressure a little bit to compensate for the increased ramp. But what about retainers and such? Anything else I should replace in the valvetrain since I’ll expect the motor to go another 100k? Obviously the valve seals will be replaced.

-On the same note, I’m fine with heavy pump gas, but don’t want to run race gas. I’m not going to toy with that just from decking the heads and a thin gasket, am I? Or do I need to start doing some compression ratio math assuming stock pistons and valves?

-I have read all the posts about reusing head bolts, but do mine look like common reusable 10+year old bolts, or is that discoloration worse than I imagine?

Thanks for the help in advance, and thanks for coming along for the ride. And by all means, if anyone has any questions, comments or advice let's hear it. I'm new to the subaru motor.
Here's some eye candy as your prize for reading through all of this. First real progress on the rebuild. Want to get this done before they go back to machine shop for a bubble bath and shave.


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