LSX - First time ever, swap

[01imprezaL]

Originally Posted by Splinter

Seems like you're just as blatantly ignorant as your domestic loving neighbors.

Domestics are not a joke. A stock 2.5RS is a joke. A 160hp grocery getter dressed up like a supercar from the factory.

Flame away, you know it's the truth.

if anyone bought a 2.5rs hoping that people thought their car was a supercar, they are a joke. i fell in love with subarus because their styling was individual, the build quality was solid, and for AWD. i understood that i was not getting a horsepower monster from the factory, that is why i am swapping out the engine anyways. the reason that the great supercar imports aren't over in the states is because the american car companies would not be able to compete and even though no one wants to admit it, the domestic world has been stuck the the 60's muscle car mindset all the way until this last year when the real shit hit the fan. how can they not be called a joke when they don't even care about build quality or making anything that lasts longer than 130,000 miles? i have owned many domestics and while the engines are great, everything else was slack ass because they didnt care or have to care when they water down the competition through laws.

[camaroz1985]

You don't know anything about what you are talking about do you?

[Azer408]

Originally Posted by Splinter
Seems like you're just as blatantly ignorant as your domestic loving neighbors.

Domestics are not a joke. A stock 2.5RS is a joke. A 160hp grocery getter dressed up like a supercar from the factory.

Flame away, you know it's the truth.

if anyone bought a 2.5rs hoping that people thought their car was a supercar, they are a joke. i fell in love with subarus because their styling was individual, the build quality was solid, and for AWD. i understood that i was not getting a horsepower monster from the factory, that is why i am swapping out the engine anyways. the reason that the great supercar imports aren't over in the states is because the american car companies would not be able to compete and even though no one wants to admit it, the domestic world has been stuck the the 60's muscle car mindset all the way until this last year when the real shit hit the fan. how can they not be called a joke when they don't even care about build quality or making anything that lasts longer than 130,000 miles? i have owned many domestics and while the engines are great, everything else was slack ass because they didnt care or have to care

I have to agree with you partially. There are some good Domestic cars out there, but the build and finish just doesn't compare to to some other imports of the same price. American cars aren't meant to have small engines with very little torque but big displacement with a lot of torque. Not only that but if you look at some other imports the finish in those cars are just as shitty. I've been in a 350z and hated it with a passion.

A 93-01 2.5rs GM6 isn't made to go fast, and isn't dressed up to be some super car either. I don't know anyone who has bought an RS hoping to look like some supercar in stock form or thought that. But I do also strongly disagree to LS1 swap in an STi, one for the fact that it's a shitload heavier and doesn't belong, but also because now instead of the awd most of us buy the car for you have a RWD system. Christ a STi doesn't even look like a super car. However I do see it as a joke that Subaru didn't give the GM/GC/GF style cars a turbo lineup like they did with the WRX and WRX STi. (This has nothing to deal with your argument haha)

Last but not least for your last comment, it's not the companies fault for the motor not lasting past 13K miles unless they clearly needed some changing or had a recall on a factory part. It's the owners fault for not taking care of a perfectly fine engine. There are plenty of high miled domestic engined cars that are being maintaniced and running, but it all comes down to how well you really take care of your car and how well of a job you do.

[Tslak]

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

You don't know anything about what you are talking about do you?

When was the last time a US automaker did something inspired and actually released it stateside?

They give us crap because we trick ourselves into it with the clever "I Buy American!" mantra. I'll admit, there was a time when I said I would never drive a japanese piece of crap, the 1970's Camaro was the epitome of cool, and I dreamed of someday owning a Corvette.

And then I turned 12.



(Though I'd still kill for a Grand National.)

[camaroz1985]

Originally Posted by Tslak

When was the last time a US automaker did something inspired and actually released it stateside?

They give us crap because we trick ourselves into it with the clever "I Buy American!" mantra. I'll admit, there was a time when I said I would never drive a japanese piece of crap, the 1970's Camaro was the epitome of cool, and I dreamed of someday owning a Corvette.

And then I turned 12.



(Though I'd still kill for a Grand National.)

I'm not sure what you are getting at. I was just saying that the preconception that all american cars have bad build quality, and are unreliable, is not how things are currently. Sure in the past American cars didn't have the best quailty, but I challenge you to go to a dealership now and say the same thing. It might not be your cup of tea, but you can't say the quality is bad.

Anyways this isn't the place for this discussion. The idea of any engine swapped into any car is cool by me (if executed properly). A lot of people see it as ruining a car, but who cares its just a car. If it were a million dollar supercar and you did something like this then yeah that would be an outrage, but to take a plentiful car and do something unique is cool.

[01imprezaL]

Originally Posted by Tslak

When was the last time a US automaker did something inspired and actually released it stateside?

They give us crap because we trick ourselves into it with the clever "I Buy American!" mantra. I'll admit, there was a time when I said I would never drive a japanese piece of crap, the 1970's Camaro was the epitome of cool, and I dreamed of someday owning a Corvette.

And then I turned 12.



(Though I'd still kill for a Grand National.)

agreed and this is what i saw this saturday at a wal-mart in my town haha Attachment 39390
that is an incredible machine that ate up corvettes and isn't a V8

[Azer408]

Originally Posted by Tslak

When was the last time a US automaker did something inspired and actually released it stateside?

They give us crap because we trick ourselves into it with the clever "I Buy American!" mantra. I'll admit, there was a time when I said I would never drive a japanese piece of crap, the 1970's Camaro was the epitome of cool, and I dreamed of someday owning a Corvette.

And then I turned 12.



(Though I'd still kill for a Grand National.)

+1. This is how Domestic automakers reel in the buisness, but the reality is that if they want to sell more cars, make better platforms, and with better build quality and finish. I can't justify buying any new American car myself when I can get just as much in a different platform for less with a different import or euro car.

[01imprezaL]

Originally Posted by camaroz1985

You don't know anything about what you are talking about do you?

how are you gonna say that and not give an example that i don't know what i'm talking about?

[URAL]

Originally Posted by Danny Boy

^^What about LSX powered RX-7's. The LSX is a far more reliable powerplant than the turbo rotary the mazda has. I guess I just don't see anything wrong with improving a car with a more powerful and far more reliable motor.

JDM>USDM to me + 7'000 rpm vs what 12'000???
Personally I totally do not like domestics what so ever... I hate the looks, hate the way they were build (especially the newer once) And I do not like the Idea of a V8 rally platform...
But who cares/// just for show
Its cool but as said, something i wouldn't think of doing. Go HillBilly! =D hahaha jk

[Azer408]

Originally Posted by URAL

JDM>USDM to me + 7'000 rpm vs what 12'000???
Personally I totally do not like domestics what so ever... I hate the looks, hate the way they were build (especially the newer once) And I do not like the Idea of a V8 rally platform...
But who cares/// just for show
Its cool but as said, something i wouldn't think of doing. Go HillBilly! =D hahaha jk

+1 to that. Most of these cars are made for one or two purposes. Drag monster or a street eating machine. LSX swapped RX-7's usually don't go drifting or time attacking because of all the extra fat they now have to carry around. Not all shit from Domestic makers are shit tho. Ford's been doing well in my eyes lately. Same with the new Camaro and Charger