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Old 05-05-2009, 09:47 AM   #71 (permalink)
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I don't get how the FDA would allow regular smoking but ban something that's less or not harmful at all.

if they are going to ban E cigs they should Ban regular cigs too.

its like saying this is bad for you but we are going to allow you guys to eat it, this product is similar to the product that is bad for you except it isn't bad but we are gonna ban it.
This is where is gets tricky. There is a company (The company that is having their large order held in customs) "Smoking Everywhere", they pretty much screwed it up for everyone involved because the way they promoted their eCigarettes was making the statement "Our cigarettes are safer and healthier than an actual cigarette." That kind of statement is always going to catch the FDA's interest.

So the FDA has deemed the Personal Vaporizers are "drug paraphernalia" because they take a drug substance and vaporize it. And so now it looks like they will be banned for 20 years or so... And they don't want kids to be able to get their hands on something like that and it's being referred to as a "gateway". Oh man, I love how the government spins shit.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:50 AM   #72 (permalink)
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nevermind. i found bunch of it on ebay for cheaper price. sweet
Just be careful on which model you get. And remember, if they are coming from China, it's going to take a couple of weeks.
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If there is truthfully no pathologic effects, it's something that I would strongly consider recommending to people ( I work in healthcare).
It's too early for me and good data won't be out for a while, so I can't make that call. It's def grabbed my interest though.

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Clinical trials for most products (wellbutrin, chantix, nicotine products) help with smoking cessation for an average 3 months before relapse.
I'd like to see if this product could help people go past that mark.
I'd also like to see info on long term side effects. If there are no ill margins, people could continue without the risk of cancer.
http://www.ecassoc.org/

More and more data by stateside scientist are being taken. We have some serious support from Matt Salmon, President of the ECA.
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Just be careful on which model you get. And remember, if they are coming from China, it's going to take a couple of weeks.
which model is the best one? I message one seller and asked about model number, in the replied he said "It's OEM so there is no model number at all" . i was like WTF!
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Since I don't really smoke much I would like an E-cigarette that vaporized flavours.

Like have a watermelon cartridge or w/e.
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which model is the best one? I message one seller and asked about model number, in the replied he said "It's OEM so there is no model number at all" . i was like WTF!
DSE901 is by far the best "newbie" eCigarette available, advanced users lean towards the DSE901 as well, so overall it's the best bet. Post up a picture of the one you are looking at and I will be able to tell you exactly what model it is.
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Since I don't really smoke much I would like an E-cigarette that vaporized flavours.

Like have a watermelon cartridge or w/e.
They have them.

e-SmokeyTreats

And you just get a "blank cartridge" comes with filter and cartridge that you "top-off" with the eJuice. Will last you for a good amount of time. They also happen to have the one you're looking for, without nicotine, in stock.
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Oh man, that's awesome. I might give in and order.
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DSE901 is by far the best "newbie" eCigarette available, advanced users lean towards the DSE901 as well, so overall it's the best bet. Post up a picture of the one you are looking at and I will be able to tell you exactly what model it is.
I was thinking to get Super mini one but after i searched the review i found out, its doesnt produce alot of vapor because it have small 2 holes on it. DSE901 mini got only one hole. So its good but its a bit longer than regular cigarette size.
Do you have any idea which E Cigarette size is same as regular cigarette size? Or should i just go for DSE 901 mini version ?
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I was thinking to get Super mini one but after i searched the review i found out, its doesnt produce alot of vapor because it have small 2 holes on it. DSE901 mini got only one hole. So its good but its a bit longer than regular cigarette size.
Do you have any idea which E Cigarette size is same as regular cigarette size? Or should i just go for DSE 901 mini version ?
The Super mini is the closest size to a regular cigarette. However, it's not that they don't create great vapor, because all you have to do is cover one of the holes with a tape or super glue... something. There is actually a video online about it. The reason Super Mini's are looked down upon has a lot to do with the amount of liquid that they just can't hold. So you have to constantly drip more liquid onto them.

So if you want to vape for about an hour while watching a movie or something, then you get either a Yetti or a Penstyle (DSE801). They are a bit longer, but they hold a lot more liquid. The DSE901 is the "inbetweeny weiny", doesn't hold too much or too little, but holds enough for you to not have to constantly refill, but isn't too long.

But, the DSE901 is about 1 inch longer than an analog cigarette. Mind you, a DSE901 and a DSE901 "Mini" are exactly the same. There is no such thing as a DSE901 "Mini", they are the same size. If they are smaller, then they are a different model number. The DSE103 (Super Mini) is 10cm. The DSE901 is 12cm... so there isn't a huuuuuuge different in size. There are ones that are smaller, but the biggest complaint with the DSE109 is like I said earlier, doesn't hold enough juice. And second, the battery life isn't that great at all.

Hope this helps, keep asking questions if you have them.
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