Electronic Cigarettes

[Synacr0n]

Thanks! I'm pretty proud of myself too...I thought I'd never be able to do it.

Actually the website says something like 44% success after 12 weeks (tested with scientific process) ...but thats still twice as high as most patches, gums, etc.

[angrychicken]

I think Chantix has the same results as everyone else.
Most of them have a good success rate within the first 3 months, getting past that has been an issue.

So the lecture said pretty much the same thing as me.
We need a 3rd party to put on a clinical trial.

We also both believe the FDA will be moving to ban this from the US market sometime this year.
There are def pros and cons to that.

[OMG555]

Originally Posted by angrychicken

I think Chantix has the same results as everyone else.
Most of them have a good success rate within the first 3 months, getting past that has been an issue.

So the lecture said pretty much the same thing as me.
We need a 3rd party to put on a clinical trial.

We also both believe the FDA will be moving to ban this from the US market sometime this year.
There are def pros and cons to that.

I can only mostly think of cons; taxation, limited certified dealers/producers of the products and how long it could take them to actually get it out on the market... that would be the most frustrating part. The only good stuff, is that the product will be more accessible. They won't be able to ban the Electric Cigarette itself, just the eLiquid. Such as bongs, pipes..etc. The paraphernalia won't be banned, just the product used to vape...

I hate that the FDA thinks that they need to stick their nose in it though.

[angrychicken]

I totally hear what your saying.
If the FDA does ban it, and it eventually gets FDA approval, it would be after extensive/expensive clinical trials and only approved manufactures who met production criteria would be allowed to market it.
This would mean that consumers could be ensured that they are getting what they paid for (not watered down) and getting a product that is it as safe as it sounds.
I think that if they continued to market it as a "safer alternative", those claims would need to backed up and the FDA would then have to monitor it's use (possibly making available via Rx only.
Rx use would make it cheaper to obtain for those with good health coverage, but make it difficult to obtain for those without. This makes it "cheaper" for those who are in a better position financially but causes an inflation of the price disallowing a large percentage of people access (wanna guess what economic demograph has the higher smoking %?).

It sort of boils around 2 laws.
In 1994 the FDA put out the Dietary Supplement & Health Education Act" which was made with the intent of protecting consumers from "magical cures". This act enables the marketing of supplements without proof of safety as long as no claim is made for their use.
Another quality assurance act from June 2007 where the FDA announced that manugactures have until June 2010 to comply to new codes. All manufactures have to evauate the identity, purity, strength, & composition of products and report all serious adverse events.

I'm not taking a stance against or advocating all this, just laying down what I am seeing and what I think are possible outcomes.

[Azer408]

The next black market item.

We thought Cuban Cigars were great, E-cigs will dominate. Lol

[Mclaren]

I just received an e-mail from Monique stating her major shipment is being held in customs. As soon as it is released she will back in stock. I'm gonna stock up on some Menthol!!

FYI: Just wanted everyone to know that when purchasing E-juice every suppliers flavors will differ. I absolutely love Monique's Menthol. She was out of stock on anything above 15ml so i purchased a 50ml from Myvaporstore.com. TOTALLY different tastes, Moniques was sweeter and more like an after dinner mint, Myvapstore tasted like i was smoking fiberglass. It had a significant chemical taste. Just a reminder when buying liquids from new suppliers always buy in small amounts at first. I learned the hard way. LOL

[talent310]

just received my VX2 in the mail.. second hardest part is waiting for the battery to charge! >_<!

[Mclaren]

Originally Posted by talent310

just received my VX2 in the mail.. second hardest part is waiting for the battery to charge! >_<!

I bet, Monique sends out 1 battery with a partial charge so you can get to vapin while you wait for the other batteries. Let us know how you like it and post some pics if you can so we can see the difference. Also what flavors did you get?

[Oolie]

so the FDA's stance is that it should be illegal because it is paraphernalia?

[OMG555]

Originally Posted by Oolie

so the FDA's stance is that it should be illegal because it is paraphernalia?

FDA's stance is that it's a gateway drug to others. Yes. And with suppliers of the product using statements such as "Healthier and safer than smoking cigarettes", makes it so that the FDA has to do their testing to PROVE that it is just that. Which I don't know how they can do that, being that the FDA still doesn't have jurisdiction over cigarettes... but whateve...